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    So far this is the only connection to Coca Cola and the Wright Brothers I'm aware of. But notice there is no use of the term "Hobble-Skirt." Not to mention that its a 1932 advertisement. In my opinion this connection is highly unlikely and extremely weak at best as having anything to do with the Hobbleskirt bottle.

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    Here's the actual full page article that's referred to in the link I posted where it said ...

    Katharine's connection to the hobble skirt seems to have begun after an article appeared in the New York Times in 1910, "The Hobble is the Latest Freak in Women's Fashion."


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    The New York Times ~ June 12, 1910

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    Jill

    Even though I have not researched this topic to the enth degree, I am currently of the opinion that ...

    1. There is a definite connection between the hobble skirt dress of the early 1900s and the Coca Cola hobbleskirt bottle patented in 1915 in that the similarity between the two shapes brought about the nickname for the Coca Cola bottle as evidenced by the 1919 Coca Cola ad I posted.

    2. There is no viable evidence I can find to connect the Wright Brothers with the patent 1915 Coca Cola bottle that was nicknamed the "Hobbleskirt" at least as early as 1919.

    However, I will keep an open mind and stand corrected in the event that something comes forth to refute my current opinion.

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    Lastly ...

    This is the portion of the 1910 New York Times article that someone apparently tried to connect with the Wright Brothers and the 1915 Coca Cola bottle. But just as the author stated in the link I posted, there is no mention of either the Wright Brothers nor Coca Cola anywhere in the article. Somehow or another someone tried to make a connection between these so called aviation skirts and the Wright Brothers. And from there they tried to stretch it even farther as a connection to how the 1915 Coca Cola bottle got its nickname. Personally, I cannot see the connection and also believe, as the author of the link stated, that the Wright Brother connection to the hobble skirt dress is nothing more than a myth - which in turn means the so called connection between the Wright Brothers and Coca Cola is also a myth.

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    P.S.

    I have access to 140,000,000 pages of newspaper archives that go as far back as the 1700s, and the 1910 New York Times article I posted is the absolute earliest use of the words "hobble skirt" I can find and it appears that's where the term originated.

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    In other words ...

    Even though the journalists' name is not shown in the 1910 article, it appears that whoever that journalist was is the individual who came up with and was the first person to ever use the words hobble skirt
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    Just for the record ...

    Even though the newspaper archives I'm subscribed to includes about 140,000,000 pages, it obviously does not include every newspaper ever published. However, of the newspapers it does include, the Wichita Eagle is the only one from 1919 that uses the term "Hobble-Skirt." There are zero uses of the term from 1918 by any newspaper that are in any way related to Coca Cola ads, and only three identical ads by the Wichita Eagle during 1919.

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    Its possible The Coca Cola Bottling Company of Wichita, Kansas was the franchise bottler who invented the term and first used it in advertising in 1919. Its also possible that the owner/manager of that particular franchise singlehandedly invented the term. So I intend to do some additional research on that particular bottler and see if I can find a name or anything else that might connect the term "Hobble-Skirt" directly to them. I will be sure to return and share anything I find!

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    One or both of these guys were likely responsible for the ad that used the term "Hobble Skirt Bottle" in the 1919 Wichita, Kansas newspaper. And if not directly responsible, they were surely aware of it having been published in their local newspaper.

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    The Wichita Eagle ~ Wichita, Kansas ~ December 17, 1919


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    For future reference ...

    Just in case one or both of these guys were involved ...


    1920 U.S. Census ~ Wichita, Kansas



    Name: Guy R Campbell
    Age: 43
    Birth Year: 1877
    Birthplace: Tennessee
    Home in 1920: Wichita Ward 3, Sedgwick, Kansas
    Street: Indiana Avenue
    House Number: 302
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Maud M Campbell
    Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
    Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
    Able to Speak English: Yes
    Occupation: President
    Industry: Wholesale coco-cola
    Employment Field: Employer
    Household Members Name Age
    Guy R Campbell 43
    Maud M Campbell 35
    Guy R Campbell Jr. 8
    Filmer M Campbell 7




    Name: John C Jeffords
    Age: 32
    Birth Year: 1888
    Birthplace: Wisconsin
    Home in 1920: Wichita Ward 3, Sedgwick, Kansas
    Street: Indiana Avenue
    House Number: 316
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Ann D Jeffords
    Father's Birthplace: Ohio
    Mother's Birthplace: United States
    Able to Speak English: Yes
    Occupation: Wholesale Merchant
    Industry: Coco cola
    Employment Field: Wage or Salary
    Household Members Name Age
    John C Jeffords 32
    Ann D Jeffords 30
    Douglas C Jeffords 8
    Ann H Jeffords 3

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    Following the March 19, 1919 use of "Hobble-Skirt" in the Wichita, Kansas newspaper, the next use of the term appears about a year later from ...

    The Emporia Daily Gazette ~ Emporia, Kansas ~ April 17, 1920

    Obviously a different bottler than the one in Wichita. But interesting because its from the same state

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