7up 7 bubble variation!

SODABOB · Mar 12, 2017

Tex

The following links are to two 6 ounce 7up bottles from Birmingham, Alabama. Check 'em out ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7up-Bottle-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/R-R-Rochell...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Jbeas31 · Mar 13, 2017

SODABOB said:
Jb

I ran across a few of the 6 1/2 ounce paper label bottles, too, but discounted them because they were not ACLs. If you decide to research them, please let us know what locations and dates you come up with.

Oh okay. I thought we were talking in general about where the 6 1/2 oz 7ups were made/bottled. Arcadia, California is 13 miles from Los Angeles.

iggyworf · Mar 13, 2017

Those are excellent PL bottles Jbeas31! Is that an 8 bubble on that amber label? Or is it the 3-1-3 7 bubble design? I can't make it out exactly.

OK, Here are my results of measuring.

1. My 3-1-3 1941 6&1/2 oz bottle is 7 & 3/4 in tall.
2. My 2-2-3 1945 7 oz bottle is 8 in tall.

Here they are filled each with apprx as close as I can measure,

1. 3-1-3 bottle 6&1/2 oz of water.
2. 2-2-3 bottle 7oz water.

When filled to the top rim the 3-1-3 bottle holds 7 oz and the 2-2-3 bottle holds 7 & 1/2 oz.

So I think the molds would have to be slightly different. But maybe easily fitted to make a 6&1/2 oz bottle. They seem to be identical except the neck is just a little shorter.

SODABOB · Mar 13, 2017

Jb

The reason I discounted the 6 1/2 ounce paper labels is because I wasn't sure if iggy wanted to shift the focus away from his 3-1-3 acl. The same thing might apply to Tex's 6 ounce acl. However, the fact that your paper label bottle is from the same area as iggy's acl is interesting and could be a clue that leads to other clues. If you have the time, please search out other 6 1/2 paper labels and see what locations you can find. Thanks

Rich/iggy

Is your 1945 7 ounce bottle also from Los Angeles? But regardless where its from, the 3-1-3 and 2-2-3 are definitely different size bottles made from different molds. It appears the 3-1-3 bubble placement and 6 1/2 ounces are directly related. Which I suspect was intentional and not random. But exactly why they are related, I do not currently know.

By the way ...

Do cardboard cartons count when it comes to the 3-1-3 bubble placement? This particular example is especially interesting because it was advertised by the 7up Bottling Company in Bakersfield, California

The Bakersfield Californian newspaper ~ July 11, 1940

Note: I have searched for an actual example of one of these cartons but have been unable to find one. I also have been unable to find a picture of a Bakersfield acl that shows the front label.

7up The Bakersfield Californian July 11, 1940.jpg

iggyworf · Mar 13, 2017

SODABOB said:
My initial search discovered the following Owens-Illinois 7up swimsuit bottles that were made at the Los Angeles plant #23 ...

First Column = Date
Second Column = Bubble Placement
Third Column = Location of Bottler

1941 - 3-1-3 - Los Angeles, Ca. (iggy's bottle)
1943 - 2-2-3 - Spokane, Washington
1944 - 2-2-3 - Los Angeles, Ca.
1944 - 2-2-3 - Mt. Vernon, Washington
1945 - 3-2-3 - Portland, Oregon ( Exception with 3-2-3 ) ?
1946 - 2-2-3 - Mt. Vernon, Washington
1947 - 2-2-3 - Los Angeles, Ca.
1952 - 2-2-3 - Conroe, Texas

19?? - 3-1-3 - Bakersfield, Ca.
19?? - 3-1-3 - San Bernardino, Ca.

I realize there is no immediate rhyme or reason to the above, but maybe it will make more sense later on. I only listed bottles with confirmed dates. Remember, one clue often leads to another!

Here is what appears to be a 1940 2-2-3 bottle from Spokane Wa. With the LA plant code of 23. And also the mold # of 4285 G. My 3-1-3 bottle is 1941. Why did they change the ACL bubble pattern for 1941? And is there any 3-1-3 bottles after 1941?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/194-7up-7-o...316647?hash=item3acdb556a7:g:BaQAAOSwXeJXeaQr

iggyworf · Mar 13, 2017

Bob I just picked a random 7oz bottle out of my crates full of 7up bottles. This one is from Sault Ste. Marie Michigan. I love it being my home state.

SODABOB · Mar 13, 2017

Hmm ... Mo research required!

In the meantime, I'm adding Jb's Arcadia bottle to the map. (The Bakersfield location is still unconfirmed for a 3-1-3 label).

iggyworf · Mar 13, 2017

I thought this was pretty cool. It doesn't help our search but it is related.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/273467...gallery&ga_search_query=7up&ref=sr_gallery_27

Jbeas31 · Mar 13, 2017

Thanks Iggy. I just got the large Glaser bottle a week ago.

The amber from Arcadia is an 8 bubble.

*** Bob. No problem. I will try to look into the 6 1/2 paper labels soon.

iggyworf · Mar 13, 2017

SODABOB said:
Tex

The following links are to two 6 ounce 7up bottles from Birmingham, Alabama. Check 'em out ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7up-Bottle-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/R-R-Rochell...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here is the link to the recently sold 6 oz from ebay. I tried bidding but didn't win it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Up-Lady-S...tXOwJPJbPQ4nAC5bpGjuY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

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