Welch's Grape Soda. Question on mark.

JKL · Apr 22, 2018

Picked up this paper label Welch's Grape Soda bottle this week for $2.
Not too old but I liked the bottle.
I don't know the Big D mark though. I have a few bottles with it on the bottom. Any info is great.

RCO · Apr 22, 2018

not a lot of paper labels survive even on more modern bottles as few people though to keep them and rest got recycled or tossed in dumps and labels now ruined . so it could still be hard to find even though its not that old

Robby Raccoon · Apr 22, 2018

Bar-codes don't go back before 1983 for store-use, and not before the later '70s for industrial use.

JKL · Apr 22, 2018

Spirit Bear said:
Bar-codes don't go back before 1983 for store-use, and not before the later '70s for industrial use.

That's very helpful information regarding the bar code. Thanks for the feedback.

JKL · Apr 22, 2018

RCO said:
not a lot of paper labels survive even on more modern bottles as few people though to keep them and rest got recycled or tossed in dumps and labels now ruined . so it could still be hard to find even though its not that old

Yeah I can understand that. It's funny because until recently I had little interest in those bottles because they never held the same nostalgic feeling. I have a few of them, a C-Plus Orange and a Crush Pink Cream Soda that are still full. I would guess from the 1980s. I'm glad I kept them.

CanadianBottles · Apr 23, 2018

Spirit Bear said:
Bar-codes don't go back before 1983 for store-use, and not before the later '70s for industrial use.

Where did you get the date 1983? I'm pretty certain they were used in stores well before then. Here's an issue of Mad Magazine complaining about being forced to include a UPC in 1978, which I suspect is the year this bottle dates to:

The D logo is for Domglas, formerly the Dominion Glass Company who used the familiar D in a diamond logo. The box-logo-8 means it was made in November-December of either 1978 or 1988, and the latter seems too recent, although the lack of imperial measurements suggests it is possible. The dot to the left of the logo means that it was made in the Montreal factory.

This document is a great resource for dating Dominion bottles https://sha.org/bottle/pdffiles/DominionGlass.pdf

carling · Apr 23, 2018

From Wikipedia:

In June 1974, one of the first UPC scanner, made by NCR Corp. (which was then called National Cash Register Co), was installed at Marsh's supermarket in Troy, Ohio. On June 26, 1974, the first product with a bar code was scanned at a check-out counter. It was a 10-pack of Wrigley's Juicy Fruit chewing gum.

Canadacan · Apr 23, 2018

JKL .... I concur with CC on the Dominion mark...the date is definitely 1988, it was around 1980-82 before 300ml was shown, prior to that for a short time it was shown as (284ml mainly on cans) but for bottles 10 fl oz - 284ml. Of course there is the exception where a bottle manufactured in 78 was still being used in the early 80's.
As for UPC codes it was mid 70's when they started showing up on soda cans in Canada, in fact I have a C-plus offer can with a offer expiry of May 30th 1976.

CanadianBottles · Apr 23, 2018

Huh, that's interesting, 1988 seems so late for a bottle like that. It looks so similar to the ones being used a decade earlier. At that point Domglas would only exist for one more year. Not sure if they kept using the date codes right up until the end or not.

Canadacan · Apr 24, 2018

CanadianBottles said:
Huh, that's interesting, 1988 seems so late for a bottle like that. It looks so similar to the ones being used a decade earlier. At that point Domglas would only exist for one more year. Not sure if they kept using the date codes right up until the end or not.

CC they did run these bottles late, the 300ml is throwing me off though, just checked one of my diet 7up's and it has 300ml on it, now the thing is it has a Super Man sweepstakes crown on it and that was from 78...the glass is also dated with an 8... so it has to be 88 on mine.

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