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I didn't expect to be back this soon but discovered something "Verry Intrresting" that I thought was worth mentioning. I was searching for any 1941 7up bottle from any location and found several of them. But what I discover is that without exception every one of them is an 8 Bubble bottle. As it stands now, your two Los Angeles bottles and the one San Bernardino bottle are the only ones I'm aware of that have 7 Bubbles. My search is still ongoing and I need to look at more 1941 bottles, but I'm already seeing a trend that could point to the 3-1-3 bottles as possibly being the first to be produced with 7 Bubbles. Those of us who are familiar with 7up's history have heard the story that goes something like this ...

"Somewhere along the line someone noticed the 8 bubbles and suggested changing it to 7 bubbles to match the brand name"

Well, what if that someone was D. K. Washburn or A. J. Crocker and the somewhere was Bakersfield or Los Angeles?

I guess the only way to shed more light on this is to keep looking for other 1941 bottles and see if the trend I mentioned holds up. If it does, then its possible that the Kern County, California 1941 7up bottles were the verry first to have the 7 bubbles, which I consider kind of significant if not historical. Here's a list of the 1941 8 Bubble bottles I have found so far. All but one of them has an ACL neck logo. The bottle from Epping Bottling in Louisville, Kentucky is the only one on this list that has the embossed neck logo ...

Clarksdale, Mississippi
Epping - Louisville, Kentucky
Aberdeen, South Dakoda
Houston, Texas (Amber)
St. Joseph, Missouri
Lincoln, Nebraska
Jamestown, North Dakota

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If anyone finds any 1941 7up bottles that are not on my list, please add them. Please note if they are 8 Bubble or 7 Bubble bottles, and if they have an embossed or ACL neck logo - Thanks


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you can add 'Reading Lancaster Pa' to the list. 8 bubbles ACL neck logo with 7 bubbles.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/623928...=sr_gallery-4-48&organic_search_click=1&frs=1
 

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When searching, try using the 4285G code once in awhile along with whatever other wording you use. Even if a a seller doesn't know what the code means, they sometimes include it in their description. The 4285G is specific to the Owens-Illinois plant #23 in Los Angeles. I'm confident that's where most if not all of the Kern County (Bakersfield - San Bernardino) bottles were made.
 

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Thanks ...

1941 7up Bottles ...

Los Angeles, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
San Bernardino, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
Clarksdale, Mississippi = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping - Louisville, Kentucky = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck
Aberdeen, South Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Houston, Texas (Amber) = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
St. Joseph, Missouri = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Lincoln, Nebraska = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Jamestown, North Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Reading / Lancaster, Pennsylvania = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck

Bakersfield, California = ? Bubble = Emb Neck

(If/when more are found, just copy/paste those listed above and then add the new one)



 
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Just rechecked my own 8bubble bottles and found I have 3 more to add,


1941 7up Bottles ...

Los Angeles, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
San Bernardino, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
Clarksdale, Mississippi = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping - Louisville, Kentucky = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck
Aberdeen, South Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Houston, Texas (Amber) = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
St. Joseph, Missouri = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Lincoln, Nebraska = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Jamestown, North Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Reading / Lancaster, Pennsylvania = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping/Louisville.Lexington Ky - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Iowa/7up Iowa Co. - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Bay City/Saginaw Mich - 8 bubble - ACL neck

Bakersfield, California = ? Bubble = Emb Neck
 
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Copy/Pasted/Add One


1941 7up Bottles ...

Los Angeles, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
San Bernardino, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
Clarksdale, Mississippi = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping - Louisville, Kentucky = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck
Aberdeen, South Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Houston, Texas (Amber) = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
St. Joseph, Missouri = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Lincoln, Nebraska = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Jamestown, North Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Reading / Lancaster, Pennsylvania = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping/Louisville.Lexington Ky - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Iowa/7up Iowa Co. - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Bay City/Saginaw Mich - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Houston, Texas = Amber Stubby = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck = Duraglas

Bakersfield, California = ? Bubble = Emb Neck




7up Bottle Amber Houston Texas Duraglas 1941 8 Bubble Owens Illinois Front.jpg

7up Bottle Amber Houston Texas Duraglas 1941 8 Bubble Owens Illinois Base.jpg

9 = Owens Illinois plat number ~ Streator, Illinois

10 = Mold Cavity Number
 

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1941 7up Bottles ...

Los Angeles, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
San Bernardino, California = 7 Bubble (3-1-3) = ACL Neck
Clarksdale, Mississippi = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping - Louisville, Kentucky = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck
Aberdeen, South Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Houston, Texas (Amber) = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
St. Joseph, Missouri = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Lincoln, Nebraska = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Jamestown, North Dakota = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Reading / Lancaster, Pennsylvania = 8 Bubble = ACL Neck
Epping/Louisville.Lexington Ky - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Iowa/7up Iowa Co. - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Bay City/Saginaw Mich - 8 bubble - ACL neck
Houston, Texas = Amber Stubby = 8 Bubble = Emb Neck = Duraglas

Bakersfield, California = ? Bubble = Emb Neck
Joliet/Chicago=8=ACL neck
 

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shotdwn

Nice find - but where-oh-where are the 1941 7 bubble bottles?
 

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Hey, iggy

Howz about a 1940 3-1-3 from Los Angeles ...

[ Wilmington Daily Press ~ Wilmington, California ~ April 4, 1940 ]

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Wilmington is a neighborhood in the Los Angeles Harbor Region area of Los Angeles, California, covering 9.14 square miles. Featuring a heavy concentration of industry and the third-largest oil field in the continental United States.


7up 313 Truck Wilmington_Daily_Press_Journal_Thu__Apr_4__1940_ (4).jpg


7up 313 Truck Wilmington_Daily_Press_Journal_Thu__Apr_4__1940_ (3).jpg
 
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P.S.

1940 7up bottles (or any 1940 Owens-Illinois soda bottle from any town or state) might be a little hard to find because it appears from what I've been seeing that most sellers don't know anything or very little about date codes. So even if they do describe the base marks (which is rarely done by sellers) they don't realize that a '0' (zero) represents 1940. So please keep this in mind when conducting your searches. Just for the record, here's what a 1940 Owens-Illinois Los Angeles plant #23 7up bottle date code looks like (with some having 'Duraglas' and some not)


​23 <(I)> 0.
 

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Just in case I haven't made myself clear, I want to clarify that I'm strongly leaning toward the possibility that everything related to the 3-1-3 bottles, signs, etc; started with ...

The 3-1-3 7up Sign in Bakersfield in 1939

(But only with time and more research will we know for certain if my theory holds up)


 

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