7up 3-1-3 bubble bottle!

SODABOB said:

Rich

Thanks for the list but I might have messed up with the way I worded my request. Instead of mold number I should have said "style" numbers such as G94 - 4243G - 4285G. The second numbers on your list are mold "cavity" numbers they used to identify each individual mold on the bottle making machine in case one of them started forming defective bottles. If during the inspection of the finished bottles they detected any flaws, the "cavity" number would tell them which mold was the culprit and either repair or replace it as needed. Mold "cavity" numbers generally range between 1 and 20. I can't recall ever seeing a cavity number higher than 20, but there could be. Notice the cavity number 15 on the Hawaii bottle and the 2 and the 13 on your 3-1-3 bottles. But regardless of all of my gobblygook, I fully understand that the majority of your bottles have the G94 "style" number and were made at the Owens Illinois plant #3 in Fairmont, West Virginia. At some point I will combine our list but for now here's what I came up with. Let's focus on the Swimsuit labels and not the later bottles. My list only includes the plant number, the date code, and plant location, which are listed under three different style categories. Even though other glass companies made early 7up bottles, such as the Glenshaw Glass Company, my list only includes Owens Illinois bottles. Most sellers, and even a lot of collectors, don't realize that Glenshaw date codes are embossed on the reinforcing ring/lip of a bottle in the form of a letter that has to be translated, such as an "M" for 1941. Mainly I'm trying to determine which plants used which styles and if they are consistent. Anyway, here's what I found so far ...

Style 94G & G94 (I've seen both versions but they are basically the same style of bottle)

PLANT # / DATE / Plant Location

23 / 47 (1947) / Los Angeles
9 / 2. (1942) / Streator, Illinois
3 / 47 (1947) / Fairmont, W.V.
7 / 50 (1950) / Alton, Illinois
23 / 52 (1952) / Los Angeles
3 / 46 (1946) / Fairmont, W.V.


Style 4243G

23 / 3. (1943) (Hawaii Bottle) / Los Angeles
23 / 1. (iggy's 1941 3-1-3 bottles) / Los Angeles


Style 4285G

23 / 0. (1940) / Los Angeles
23 / 45 (1945) / Los Angeles

Amber Squat Bottles* - Style G853 - Usually embossed on the Heel and not the base

* I'm still working on these and will post more details later

And here's one the Owens Illinois plant charts again for a quick reference to the various plant numbers/locations. I will do a revised version for all of the above, including iggy's list, later on.


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SODABOB said:

Hey, iggy/Rich

What year(s) were the embossed neck logos typically supposed to have been discontinued? According to the description associated with this particular bottle (some of which are obvious from the pic) it apparently is ...

1. From Spokane, Washington

2. Produced at the LA Plant #23

3. Dated 1942

4. 7 bubble 2-3-2

5. Embossed neck logo


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SODABOB said:

Because I'm eager to give away a Free ACL book, I'm adding number 5. to my list. Surely there are some 1942 7 bubble bottles out there somewhere. However, if I messed up and forgot that a 1942 7 bubble bottle has already been posted, then number 5. is void and not a winner. Please bring it to my attention if a 1942 7 bubble bottle has already been posted. To the best of my recollection, I don't think one has been posted yet. Anyway, here's my revised list with the new addition in green...

Revised List for Free ACL book ...

1. Good pictures (Front - Back - Base) of any 1941 or earlier Bakersfield ACL 7up bottle*

2. Good pictures (Front - Back - Base) of any 7up bottle like member kbobam's ACL 7up bottle*

3. Any 1938 through 1942 ACL 7up bottle from any of the following California locations*

Bakersfield / City & County
San Bernardino / City & County
Los Angeles / City & County

4. Good pictures (Front - Back - Base) of any 1941 7 Bubble ACL 7up bottle from any state or town in the United States*

5. Good pictures (Front - Back - Base) of any 1942 7 Bubble ACL 7up bottle from any state or town in the United States*


*Except for the 3-1-3 bottles posted on this or any other thread.

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SODABOB said:

bottle-bud

I can't read the entire article but do see "Gary, Indiana" at the bottom. I did a quick search and found this bottle that's currently on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-UP-ACL-S...ge-Indianapolis-Gary-Evansville-/202275544742

Notice ...

1. It has Gary on the back along with Indianapolis and Evansville - all located in Indiana

2. The base is marked with "Duraglas" and has a 2. for 1942

3. Its a 2-2-3


So I don't know what to make of it other than its one year after the Los Angeles bottles and five years earlier than the 1947 date on your article. ???


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