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    I'm not throwing in the towel just jet, but whatever the explanation might be regarding the 3-1-3 bottles and other items with the 3-1-3 bubbles, I'm 100% convinced that it was ...
    intentional

    ... and not some accidental fluke. But who made that decision and why remains a mystery!

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    I'm not sure this will help but it might. It appears the Los Angeles Seven Up Bottling Company was officially established on February 1, 1938. So that might be a good year to conduct some searches and see if anything can be found regarding the 3-1-3 bubbles; especially if there are any 3-1-3 Los Angeles bottles between 1938 and 1940


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    Hey, iggy/Rich

    I know we have been down this road before, but I just gotta ask, why is it ...

    1. That the majority of 7up crates currently on eBay are from Los Angeles?

    2. That every Los Angeles crate starts with the number 6 no mater what the second numbers are?

    3. Are we to believe that every Los Angeles crate was made in the month of June?

    I bring this up to reiterate that I don't think those stamped numbers are dates. But if not dates, then what do they represent? Talk about mysteries, howz about we try and figure out what the stamped numbers represent once and for all? I'm in if you are!

    Bob

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    This link it to what is described as a 1933 (-1936*) Owens-Illinois catalog. At the top you will notice some comments I shared with them in March of 2017 about the date, which they acknowledged.

    https://sha.org/bottle/oi1933.htm

    Anyway, open File #21 and scroll to the bottom where you will find a variety of wood shipping boxes or crates. Notice on the last page of that section where it shows STYLE NO. 6. crates. I realize they are the smaller, flat crates, but I still can't help but wonder if the STYLE NO. 6 has any connection to the Los Angeles crates I mentioned that are stamped with the number six followed by a two-digit number?
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    I re-read the original thread again and was reminded that only the Los Angeles crates have the number 6 stamped on them. This prompted me to take another look around and I discovered that most (but not all) of the smaller Los Angeles crates also have the 6 on them, followed by a two-digit number. And even though I cannot prove or disprove whether or not the two-digit numbers are dates, the 6 appears to be a designation for Los Angeles only. At this juncture I do not think the 6 represents the month of June. So, if its not a month number, I wonder what the number 6 and Los Angeles have in common?

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    Question: Was there ever a 3-2-2 pattern for the bubbles? Just fooling around inside on a nasty weather day and found this ad for Seven Up. My initial thought was a mistake in the advertising ad maybe?? maybe not?

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    bottle-bud

    I can't read the entire article but do see "Gary, Indiana" at the bottom. I did a quick search and found this bottle that's currently on eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-UP-ACL-So...-/202275544742

    Notice ...

    1. It has Gary on the back along with Indianapolis and Evansville - all located in Indiana

    2. The base is marked with "Duraglas" and has a 2. for 1942

    3. Its a 2-2-3


    So I don't know what to make of it other than its one year after the Los Angeles bottles and five years earlier than the 1947 date on your article. ???


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    Speaking of "Duraglas" why don't the 1941 3-1-3 bottles have it? The general rule of thumb is that "Duraglas" (a glass hardening element) was introduced in 1940.

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    P.S. / Correction

    I triple-checked and discovered that the San Bernardino and Bakersfield wood crates also have the number 6 stamped on them. So its not just exclusive to Los Angeles. But it does fit in with the 3-1-3 bubbles on the bottles and the crates. So it might be that the number 6 has some connection to the whole enchalada! ???

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    Speaking of 1947, check out this ...


    Los Angeles ~ 23<(I)> 47 ~ Duraglas ~ 2-2-3

    7up bottle currently on "Bonanza"


    https://www.bonanza.com/listings/Vintage-early-1940-s-7-Up-bottle-Los-Angeles/383517763?goog_pla=1&gpid=293946777986&keyword=&go og_pla=1&pos=1o2&ad_type=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiA5qTfBRA oEiwAwQy-6UZiDlWTToZnCgLMqS0mP3Nue9eZ4bIrG7EfzF5Ki9X0PDO-E5UWehoCKJQQAvD_BwE


    This seems to reconfirm that Los Angeles reverted back to the 2-2-3 bottles at least by 1947. I'm still searching for 1938 thru 1940 Los Angeles bottles.





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