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No, my point isn't about whiteboards. They weren't using whiteboard ink on bottles. My point is about how some types of non-water soluble ink - not just whiteboard ink - can stay intact when separated from its backing. I don't think that the ink on this label would literally float up and away when dipped in water, but I think that it's thick enough that it could stay intact through a slow decomposition process. That seems more likely to me than there being a whole previously undiscovered history of pre-ACL painted labels which no one has discovered in 50 years of bottle digging.
 

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Whats wrong with thinking that the ink, paint, media or what ever WAS actually put on the bottle this way? I find it easier to see it as it is instead of , instead of trying to see some hocus - pocus that might, possibly could have caused a effect that is obviously a long shot. Could the disintegrating paper have happened? Possibly but the chances are a billion to one and now there are three people who say they have seen this effect. Isn't it not possible that two saw and possessed a bottle like this, and didn't know what they were looking at! And as for fifty years of bottle digging....... Have you ever seen any digger not rub a newly found bottle? Or wash it off with water at the dig site? or do they all carry unidentified bottles caked in mud home and begin a painstaking slow cleaning process, to determine what they have found? I think a lot of diggers have found bottles like this only to destroy the delicate ink only labels. Medicines were not returnable there fore a painted on glass only had to withstand one owner and was thrown away. ACLs sodas were returnable and had to have a more durable ink, one acl bottle might last 5 years or more, but they had a hard life......
 

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So much for 1930's sodas being first painted labels...

Here is a wonderful C 1800 Dutch or German blown glass kuttrolf decanter, blown by the German half-post method (a double gather of glass for strength) with its original painted label nearly 100% intact! Has large “sand” type pontil scar on base. painted label.jpg
 

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I can't explain the reason for it but still think it was once a paper label. the ones I found had no paper either, but seemed to be more like the ink left behind like Canadian bottles said. LEON.
 

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Looking at that bottle & blowing up pic or super sizing it, it looks way to new to be 1850's-60's. Likely reproduction made to look old. Like we never seen that before? LEON.

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Here's the only pic of one of those bottles with the paper label. Stroh's Beer Bottle broken shard from around 1900. No paper on bottle just kind of a imprint of Label on bottle. LEON.

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Good photo Leon! This shard is how I see a paper label loosing the paper and leaving some ink intact. A lot of the ink would have to go.... along with the paper. Just sayin the ink left behind will suffer loss of details and fading. I think this is the original label for your shard piece. And notice on your shard where the B is practically touching the red insigna its practically under it and the S and t in strohs is touching evident of label shifting.Strohs-Bohemian-Beer-Labels-The-Stroh-Brewery-Co-Post-Prohibition-_23679-1.jpg
 
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