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bottlenutboy · Nov 9, 2006

is this real or fake? how do i tell? it has a real pontil and sheared and tooled lip it looks old to me but i dont know how to tell i dont think its clevengers it doesnt have any embossing on it at all i have seen one like it but it was just a picture and was a different color so i dont know here i am

bottlenutboy · Nov 9, 2006

here is the side

bottlenutboy · Nov 9, 2006

here is the pontil mark in the middle picture you can see the seam stop at the shoulder it was made using old methods atleast i hope you guys can help me

Flaschenjager · Nov 9, 2006

Hi Spencer -
MOMA (Museum Of Modern Art) put some of these out in various colors. Some will have stickers stating such, others won't. The true Stiegel blown flask, which I think these are formed to look like, will look different. I think there is an example, on one cover of the Stiegel books, which I don't have, in amethyst. The embossing will not be as sharp and sort of fade into the glass more.

I am in no way saying this is this or that, just making some comments of what I have seen. Hopefully, someone who has handled these more will reply.

bottlenutboy · Nov 9, 2006

i hope so too i am leaning toward repro i got it at a antique store for 2.95 i kow they didnt know it was a bottle i think they thought it was a ugly vase it sort of looks like a vase thats funny pretty bottle but ugly vase lol maybe someone will let me know something a little more definitive

bottlenutboy · Nov 10, 2006

if this is one of those MOMA repro's what is the age on one of these? and of course value?

capsoda · Nov 10, 2006

2.95 is pretty good for a MOMA replica. you don't see them very often anymore. The last one I saw on Ebay went for 25 bucks.

bottlenutboy · Nov 10, 2006

well if it is atleast i didnt get had maybe its real but i think it is a fake

zanes_antiques · Nov 10, 2006

How can ya go wrong for $2.95? That's a gallon of gas.The first thing I look at if I don't know something's age is wear on movable and use areas. On Gassware first thing I look at is the base. It can be faked but the more you see the easier it is to see less than normal wear. If you look at something that's supposed to be 150 years old it will have base wear even if it wasn't used very often. If it doesn't have any then really question it. My two cents worth.

bottlenutboy · Nov 10, 2006

well your right i dont think i went wrong although it would be really nice if it were authentic here 2.95 is actually about 1 1/2 gallons

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