ATTN: Patent & Glass house whiskey collectors

[tigue710]

Do you collect patent and glass house embossed American Whiskey cylinders? I am looking for all collectors of these types of bottles to discuss and share they're knowledge of the different variants and bottles out there. Have any rare glass house molds? In example the Brooklyn glass co or Fort Trumble glass Co whiskey cylinders?

I want to compile a list of all the known examples out there for a future publication. Picture too! Thanks...

Ill start off with one of mine, this is an early New England Patent whiskey with sticky ball pontil, no attribution, but it does have a backwards N in Patent, which could help lead to a maker someday, I have not seen another. Found in New London County CT...

 

[GuntherHess]

Quite a few of the PATENT bottles are English.
You only dealing with American ones?

 

[tigue710]

only going for American ones, probably do an introduction about Rickett and the early patents, and history of why glass houses marked their cylinders...

I would be interested in any of the early 5ths or 6ths that are English, pre 1850, for reference and study material...

 

[GuntherHess]

Dont forget German cylinders too[]
Hermann Heye from Bremen...

 

[GuntherHess]

bottom H. Heye

 

[tigue710]

thats a cool one! I guess I should take all of them into consideration, I mostly want to focus on the American bottles... I have a German one myself, I cant remember what the name on it is, but is an early one... (it's packed away right now)

 

[GuntherHess]

Seeing the foreign ones might help sort out some of the unattributed ones.

 

[tigue710]

as with any black glass early bottle identification can be difficult. Its interesting that the Germans used the word Patent. Would it have been for the English and American Markets I wonder, or is Patent also a German word?

Of course the patent whiskey we must thank Rickett for in the first place as he was the first to use a shoulder embossed patent bottle to protect his Patent of the three piece mold. What I haven't discovered is if embossing the bottle like this in the U.S. was just a fad or imitation or if is meant to make the bottle look like a Ricketts. Or possibly use of the shape and mold was leased from Rickett and so the bottle marked? There was a Whiskey war among the glass houses also in which they competed to put out the best whiskey bottles, and possibly they all patented their designs for this reason, and it had nothing to do with Rickett?

 

[GuntherHess]

According to this interesting article ...
http://www.sha.org/bottle/pdffiles/HermannHeyeGlasfabrik_BRG.pdf
Hermann Heye was a glass bottle jobber and exported bottles all over the world.
I expect the PATENT bottles were made for use in England/UK or the US.

 

[GuntherHess]

Here is a PATENT cylinder, unfortunately broken. What's interesting is I can date it to within a few years. It was found in an 1862-1863 Civil War camp so I know it is no later than that. Its smooth base so its not much earlier than that date either.
It has a modest , almost tooled looking lip. I was thinking maybe Pittsburgh but just a guess on my part.