black opaque bottle, seems old

[moodorf]

Can anyone give me an idea of what this bottle is or how old it might be? I think it's pretty old. It's almost entirely opaque unless you hold it up to the light. It's very heavy even for it's size. It has some sort of flaw in it and a....dent (yeah, I don't know the terminology yet) it has no mold seams and no identifiers. It's neck is crooked.

 

[crwncrk]

Can you get a close-up of the neck with stronger lighting? Trying to figure out if it’s an applied or tooled lip (and also if it’s dip mold or turn-mold)

 

[moodorf]

Can you get a close-up of the neck with stronger lighting? Trying to figure out if it’s an applied or tooled lip (and also if it’s dip mold or turn-mold)

 

[New England Digger]

I would say its a 'black glass' whiskey from around the 1890's. Great find!

 

[saratogadriver]

English or colonies ale or whiskey, turn of century.

Jim G

 

[moodorf]

Not trying to prolong this thread but, can someone tell me what this flaw/crack/bubble/thing is? Is it damage or a manufacturer defect? Thanks

 

[willong]

Not trying to prolong this thread but, can someone tell me what this flaw/crack/bubble/thing is? Is it damage or a manufacturer defect? Thanks
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Assuming that the exterior contour of the bottle is uniform (not noticeably rippled or depressed at that location) it is just a bubble in the glass. Such are quite common in mouth-blown, handmade bottles.

 

[moodorf]

It's not depressed at the place, you can feel the little edges of the flaw whatever it is, but I guess I don't know what you mean by "rippled"

 

[willong]

It's not depressed at the place, you can feel the little edges of the flaw whatever it is, but I guess I don't know what you mean by "rippled"

When you say that you can feel the edges, is it an open cavity, like in a tooth; or, is it more like a closed blister?

Either way, it appears to be a bubble. Air and gasses could get entrained in the glass melt, or caught in a fold of molten glass as the glass blower picked up a gather on the end of the blowpipe. If the bubble is closed and slightly raised from the surrounding surface, then the hot, trapped gas likely expanded the bubble slightly when the still plastic bottle was released from the mold. The outer surface of the bubble's glass would have to be very thin for that to happen, in my opinion. In other words, the bubble is very close to the outer surface of the bottle, though I can't really tell from the photos.

Rippled: corrugated like sand on a beach or wind-blown dune, or like the cold mold glass appearance that bottle collectors like to call "whittled."

 

[moodorf]

oh ok. Yeah it's neither whittled nor open. It's more like a closed blister. I concur it's a bubble, which is acceptable to me. I don't mind manufacturing defects, in fact I think they give the bottle some character. Thanks for replying