EARLIEST "CROWN TOP" SODA BOTTLES 1892 - 1900

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for example.
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Leon

Thanks - I get what you are saying. However, if Brent's bottle was a salesman's sample, wouldn't it also include the name of the bottle manufacture who was making them - similar to the can you posted that says it was made by the Continental Can Company? In other words, WHO do you think MADE Brent's bottle? I can't say for certain, but I doubt it was MADE by the Sterilized Beer Bottling Company - although it might have been made exclusively FOR them - but by WHO? Which takes us back to the 1892-93 Alexander Straus patent. If they were made in quantity and distributed, I wonder WHO made them?

I apologize for any confusion this might generate, but confusion seems to be par for the course with me lately.

Bob
 
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Maybe it was like my first pic where it advertise the Hutchinson Bottle, but The Hutchinson bottle was made by at least 20 different Bottle makers, it was not made or marked WWH which is Hutchinson.?
 

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Bay View Brewing ~ Baltimore, Maryland and/or Norfolk, Virginia

Possible 1892 Crown-top Bottle or Wild Goose Chase?

Baltimore Sun Newspaper ~ 1975

Bay View Brewing_The_Baltimore_Sun_Penn_Mon__Nov_3__1975.jpg


Brewing In Baltimore Book ~ Maureen O'Prey ~ 2011

Bay View Brewing  In Baltimore 2011 Maureen O'Prey.jpg


Norfolk, Virginia Newspaper ~ 1890

Bay View Brewing_The_Norfolk_Virginian_Thu__Apr_24__1890.jpg


Brewers' Review Magazine ~ 1902 ~ Gottlieb-Bauernschmidt-Straus

Bay View Brewery Straus 1902 American Brewers' Review.jpg


One Hundred Years of Brewing Book ~ 1903 ~ H.S. Rich & Co. New York

Bay View Brewery Straus 1903.jpg


Bruce Mobley Websites


A B Co = American Bottle Co. = 1906-1914
D. O. C. = D. O. Cunningham Glass Co. - 1880-1931
E H E Co = Edward H. Everett Glass Co. - 1885-1903
N. B. B. G. Co. = North Baltimore Bottle Glass Company - 1885-1920s


GBS ~ Stands for Gottlieb-Bauernschmidt-Straus

 
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This bottle is currently on eBay. I contacted the seller and he said it is marked with ...

E H E Co 761 or 192 = Edward H. Everett Glass Co. - 1885-1903


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If ...

If Maureen O'Prey's information is accurate about Bay View Brewery being the first to use a Crown-top

If the following articles are accurate in that G.B.S. (Gottleib-Bauernschmidt-Straus) was established in 1901

The Baltimore Sun October 10, 1901

Bayview GBS_The_Baltimore_Sun_Thu__Oct_10__1901.jpg


"One Hundred Years of Brewing" published in 1903

Bay View Brewery Closed in 1901 From One Hundred Years of Brewing Book Published in 1903.jpg


Then it appears to me that we can eliminate any of the bottles embossed with GBS as being produced any earlier than 1901 - and likely not the Crown-top that O'Prey was referring to. Which leaves us with this bottle as a possible contender for a 1892 Crown-top (Pre GBS)

Bay View Brewery Norfolk Branch

Bayview Brewery Bottle Norfolk (Virginia) Branch D.O.C. 27 1880 to 1931 Mark (2).jpg


Bayview Brewery Bottle Norfolk (Virginia) Branch D.O.C. 27 1880 to 1931 Label.jpg


D.O. Cunningham Mark - Used between 1880 and 1931
(I don't know what the 27 stands for but likely a catalog or style number and not a date)

Bayview Brewery Bottle Norfolk (Virginia) Branch D.O.C. 27 1880 to 1931 Mark.jpg



From Bruce Mobley site

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This is the only brand of beer I can find related to the Bay View Brewery in Norfolk, Virginia in 1892. The brand was not exclusive to Bay View and was sold in other states as well. I am still searching for an ad that illustrates the type of bottle they used in 1892, but no luck yet, and will keep looking.

Have a safe and happy Halloween

Bob


The Norfolk Virginian - March 15, 1892

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You might have better luck finding a early crown if you looked for a bauernschmidt brewing bottle also known as bauernschmidt & marr brewing co in 1889-1899 & also known as Baltimore United Breweries at same time. LEON.
 

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Thanks, Leon

Finding Baltimore and/or Norfolk beer bottles is the easy part - but accurately dating them can be a Nightmare on Elm Street - especially when it comes to narrowing it down to a single year such as 1892. These links are to Bruce Mobley's site and include some of the bottles you mentioned. Take your pick as to which of them was made in 1892.

Baltimore

https://brucemobley.com/beerbottlelibrary/md/baltimore/bauernschmidtf.htm

https://brucemobley.com/beerbottlelibrary/md/baltimore/babreweries.htm



Norfolk




Thanks, again

Bob
 
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