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English Black Glass or Dutch ?

Steve/sewell

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Hi Christian,Yes your bottle does look to be being made in the colonial era.Wistarburgh Glassboro,Stiegel and Amelung all had very similar styles
influenced by the German Glass blowers.The color and style could put it in Wistarburgh as that color green seems to be more towards Wistars factory then
the others.Does the pontil have a white yellowy substance around the perimeter of it.If so then the bottle would be a very strong candidate as to being made at Wistarburgh.
 

daltonbottles

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May 11, 2010
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Sniped one of my rarer black glass bottles off eBay this past week. It's a half-sized longneck Continental mallet that measures only 8.5 inches in height, with the neck making up 5 inches of the total length. Width at base is only 3.25 inches. There were a couple of these in the Cosbert Collection, but nothing this short in body or total length. Haven't decided yet if it's Belgian, German, or French. The symmetrical string collar and lack of major lip flair leans me away from Dutch, and the color is a much deeper forest green than normally seen on Dutch glass. The glass is also thicker, more like Belgian and German pieces. It's free-blown, asymmetrical in cross-section and obviously not blown in a dip mold, so I tend to think it is likely an early cylindrical form made between 1730 and 1760. You just never know what is going to pop up on eBay.




 

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CazDigger

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I just acquired this large demijon from a local (upstate NY ) estate. It is round, about 20" tall and 16" wide with a string lip and no pontil. Any knowlegable input about its age and location of manufacture would be appreciated. THANKS! Mark




 

CHESHIRE

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Jul 18, 2013
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Dear Daltonbottles,

I have an archaeological bottle in a 1760 context from western Massachusetts It has a classic blowpipe pontil scar, so it is not English and the body is not French......so I think that it is either Dutch (though it does not have a really long neck typical of 1760 Dutch) or American (German would be a stretch given the provenance).....

Can you take a look at it.....as Dutch would be very exciting for us in early pioneer western mass......

My email is the best frank.e.white@accenture.com

Tx Frank
 

cowseatmaize

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Dec 2, 2004
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Northeastern USA
This thread was last posted on almost 3 years ago and I don't think the OP has posted since.
I think you'd make out better by starting a new thread with a description and some pictures.
"Pontils Only" would be a good spot.
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nhpharm

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Apr 24, 2007
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Looks 1880's-1890's to me. We dig a lot of those English beers in Texas with that nippled base style in that context.
 

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