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GlassWorks Auction #148

opmustard

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Any comments, interests, etc. on the latest GlassWorks auction?
I hate the 20% winning fee that is tacked on to your bill, but they have to make money.
I have in the past won some pretty good deals, the best one, won a figural bitters true puce bottle. Everyone was bidding on the same figural bitters in red, so I just concentrated on the puce one and got it for a very good price. Years later, sold it for over 300% more than I paid for it.
It seems like they are auctioning off more bottles with damage these days. Am I right or is my senior memory getting the best of me?
I guess when have you so many good looking bottles up for sale, you just sort of have a hard time resisting not bidding(there goes my retirement $.)
So, are there any bottles that anyone likes or just have to have?
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treeguyfred

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yeah, I got my catalog a couple of weeks ago and it's interesting ... they got a lot of the historical flasks. I'm watching some of them and there are some beautiful bitters and I'm drooling over. The soda & mineral water section in the glass works auction is OFF the HOOK! The ink section is mighty tempting but it's not my bottle focus haha!

PS; I also noticed that the damage allowance percentage is stretched pretty hard

And almost simultaneously American bottle auctions has the Don Dwyer collection auction 70 part 1 starting today & ends on march 8th
~Fred
 
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opmustard

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I hate the fees so I just try to find people to deal with directly
I couldn't agree with you more about that 20% tacked on to your winning bid. Lets say that you win a super pontiled/smooth base bottle at $500.00, well add on another 20% and then I wonder why I did that.
However, sometimes if can win a bottle at a good price (rarely in my case) you can do well or its that great bottle you just have to have (rarely.)
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opmustard

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Jan 14, 2021
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yeah, I got my catalog a couple of weeks ago and it's interesting ... they got a lot of the historical flasks. I'm watching some of them and there are some beautiful bitters and I'm drooling over. The soda & mineral water section in the glass works auction is OFF the HOOK! The ink section is mighty tempting but it's not my bottle focus haha!

PS; I also noticed that the damage allowance percentage is stretched pretty hard

And almost simultaneously American bottle auctions has the Don Dwyer collection auction 70 part 1 starting today & ends on march 8th
~Fred
Thank you for your post about the auction.
I thought that they were allowing more bottles with damage to the auction.
Yeah, I have found myself considering bottles that I don't collect as well. Its my collector's sickness, it gets the best of me.
You mentioned about the sodas. What exactly do you mean about them? The reason I ask is I would like your thoughts about them. I am eyeing some of them.
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opmustard

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Jan 14, 2021
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yeah, I got my catalog a couple of weeks ago and it's interesting ... they got a lot of the historical flasks. I'm watching some of them and there are some beautiful bitters and I'm drooling over. The soda & mineral water section in the glass works auction is OFF the HOOK! The ink section is mighty tempting but it's not my bottle focus haha!

PS; I also noticed that the damage allowance percentage is stretched pretty hard

And almost simultaneously American bottle auctions has the Don Dwyer collection auction 70 part 1 starting today & ends on march 8th
~Fred
 

opmustard

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Fred,
I just looked at present American Bottle Auctions and I must say that I like they're auction presentation much better than GlassWorks.
I used to live about a hours drive from Jeff's business in Sacramento back in the 90's.
He always treated me very well when I would vist him at his office.
Personally, I had very good luck with all my bottles that I auctioned through him. Had good luck with buying through his auction as well.
I like the low starting bids, a bottle is going to sell at whatever the going rate is, but I like the low starting bids. Also, like the rating system, lower premium and the pictures of the auction bottles.
I just don't collect too many Western bottles anymore.
opmustard
 

UncleBruce

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The 20% for buying is a big deal. I figure what is the most I would pay for a specific lot, divide that amount by 1.2, then subtract shipping expense (which can be difficult to figure) and the result is the bid that I will actually place. Win or loose I stick to my bid.
As to the number of damaged bottles in the auction the families that consign a collection to the Auction likely required that the auction company take the whole collection. I don't believe there are any collections that contain only perfect specimens no matter what was collected.
These glass auction houses are caught in the middle between buyer and seller. At time I believe this can be very trying. My experiences have all been positive and I applaud them for what they do.
 

opmustard

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Jan 14, 2021
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The 20% for buying is a big deal. I figure what is the most I would pay for a specific lot, divide that amount by 1.2, then subtract shipping expense (which can be difficult to figure) and the result is the bid that I will actually place. Win or loose I stick to my bid.
As to the number of damaged bottles in the auction the families that consign a collection to the Auction likely required that the auction company take the whole collection. I don't believe there are any collections that contain only perfect specimens no matter what was collected.
These glass auction houses are caught in the middle between buyer and seller. At time I believe this can be very trying. My experiences have all been positive and I applaud them for what they do.
That is very interesting formula you've come up with, very impressive.
I agree that the auction houses are stuck in the middle and that not every collectors collection has only mint bottles (I don't.)
However, back in the day, I send a group of bottles to an auction house and three were rejected for minor defects. I asked if the bottles were not auction worthy, the answer was no they were, but they had minor defects and weren't up to they're standards at that time.
Personally, I think that whatever the auction standards are fine with me. I just seem to notice that more bottles with defects are going up for sale. If someone wants to bid on these bottles, o.k. nothing wrong with that. I am bidding on a bottle right now that has a minor defect because of its rarity and I just want it for my collection.
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hemihampton

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I don't mind Bottles with minor defect or even major defect if rare. I've dug with & know & met people that if they see the smallest minute microscopic chip on a lip they go Oh My God, blow a major gasket & declare the Bottle Junk/Garbage/ Worthless just throw that thing away they say. If someone has a rare $1,000.00 Bottle & I can buy it for only $10 or $50 because of major chip on lip that's fine with me. The Rich people only collect mint perfect (attic or wall find) 150-200 Year old Bottles. I can't afford that. Must be nice. LEON.
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