Got a little dirt on me

Welcome to our Antique Bottle community

Be a part of something great, join today!

capsoda

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Messages
9,531
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Seminole,Alabama, USA
Finally got to go on a dig a week ago. It was a late 1800s crapper that was very interesting. It was a wood liner, cyprus I think, and it had a brick partition. The outhouse set on one half and the other half had three clay pipes running in different directions so the liquid could leach out. I couldn't do any of the heavy digging but I could sure scratch around. There were two other holes my buddies had already dug but they were both post 1900s and didn't yield much that was worth anything. Didn't find much in this one either but I did find a watch. Didn’t look like much at first because I couldn’t get it open. I mixed a batch of acid that is used to eat away steal parts with out harming anything else. It soaked for several days before I could open it but it finally came open.

It has an American Watch Company (Waltham) movement and it was 17 jewels with 4 large jewels. It is a Model 1870 and was made in 1871 and it was a one day run. It is a size 18, key wind key set non-adjusted (except for the gold balance) movement. It was a pretty good watch for the day and was last serviced on February 5, 1895.

It was when I checked the hallmarkmark on the case that I was surprised. It is English made case and was assayed in Sheffield, England. Check out the pictures.



C2037B40F3F0474CA2393D1284E32607.jpg
 

Attachments

  • C2037B40F3F0474CA2393D1284E32607.jpg
    C2037B40F3F0474CA2393D1284E32607.jpg
    136.4 KB · Views: 52

capsoda

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Messages
9,531
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Seminole,Alabama, USA
You can see B.McG. & Co., which is probably the distributor and right under that is the hallmark and the serial #554305, The hallmark is the tombstone shape with the crown (for Sheffield) and what is under the crown that caught my attention.

52DA9F35AB474C4B98E666F546772347.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 52DA9F35AB474C4B98E666F546772347.jpg
    52DA9F35AB474C4B98E666F546772347.jpg
    131.2 KB · Views: 59

capsoda

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Messages
9,531
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Seminole,Alabama, USA
That’s right guy and girls…it says “K18â€. It is a solid 18 carat gold case. I put it in a peroxide cleaning solution that will eat up anything that is not 14k or higher. Solid 18k. Made my day let me tell ya. It was good to get out but this made it really worth while

2797344A85754D6C9993A9D9FA710B18.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 2797344A85754D6C9993A9D9FA710B18.jpg
    2797344A85754D6C9993A9D9FA710B18.jpg
    77.4 KB · Views: 61

xxfollyxx

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2010
Messages
265
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Halmark
I was thinking gold when I saw the crown....

"The next mark we see is a Crown or Gold Standard Mark. This was first introduced in 1798 and can now been seen on all UK hallmarked gold that’s 9, 14 18 and 22ct. The crown also appears on old 12 and 15 carat gold, however this was stopped in 1932."


Awesome find, you going to sell it? If so, as is or scrap? Should fetch several hundred in scrap alone.
 

capsoda

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2005
Messages
9,531
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Seminole,Alabama, USA
It is dented up and thw engraviing on the case is mostly worn off. The first service was done in 1873 and the last in 1895 so it has 22 years of wear plus being in the stew for over a hundred so it is scrap.

The crown was the Sheffield Assay mark until the mid to late 1800s. I can't remember the exact date they started using the crown for all gold.
 

AntiqueMeds

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
3,064
Reaction score
11
Points
0
Location
Frederick, MD.
nice hunk of gold. congrats.
its always fun to dig gold items, since gold doesnt tarnish its always bright and shiny as soon is you pull it from the ground.
 

RICKJJ59W

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2007
Messages
16,187
Reaction score
11
Points
0
Location
Lehigh Valley USA
I would have called this thread "Back in Time" but that's just me [:D]

Great to see you out near the action Cap. Cool watch! and solid 18 k bling to boot.
The shoulder must be getting better,unless it took you a week to type all that [8D]
 

creeper71

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2009
Messages
1,138
Reaction score
0
Points
0
ORIGINAL: xxfollyxx

Halmark
I was thinking gold when I saw the crown....

"The next mark we see is a Crown or Gold Standard Mark. This was first introduced in 1798 and can now been seen on all UK hallmarked gold that’s 9, 14 18 and 22ct. The crown also appears on old 12 and 15 carat gold, however this was stopped in 1932."


Awesome find, you going to sell it? If so, as is or scrap? Should fetch several hundred in scrap alone.
the case alone should be over a troy ounce so he is looking atleast 1300.00 I would think.. for scrap
 

RedGinger

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2007
Messages
6,425
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Way to go, Cap. Good to see you digging again and on the forum. How were you able to tell what the last date of service was on the watch?
 

Members online

Latest threads

Forum statistics

Threads
83,321
Messages
743,581
Members
24,345
Latest member
marenjch
Top