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I just got this one this last week. I have 5 other H.H.H. bottles. Four of the five are embossed with H.H.H. Horse Medicine DDT 1868. The fifth one is embossed with Clifford & Co H.H.H. Medicine Chicago DDT 1868
Although I have seen folks try to sell them saying it has DDT in it the DDT stood for Daniel Dodge Tomlinson. Here is some information I had (sorry, I neglected to note where I got this):
“Gifford and Co H.H.H. Liniment Chicago on the front with “ The Celebrated†on one side and “D.D.T. 1868†on the other. The bottle contained “Indian Vegetable Pain Extractor for Horses†which was developed and introduced in 1868 by Daniel D. Tomlinson of Stockton, California. The formula was sold to L.L. Gifford in 1880, and the medicine was bottled in Chicago and sold under the names of both the H.H.H. Medicine Company and Gifford and Company at least through 1907, and as Tomlinson’s H.H.H. Liniment as late as 1948
Another old ad mentions the liniment being put up by Tomlinson only in Philadelphia and beware of imitators.

The above does not explain this one. In this case it is being produced in Philadelphia but not by Tomlinson and it is not a Chicago produced Gifford Company either. It is not even being touted as a horse medicine on this one. I know from a previous post that Aschenbach & Miller was a druggist.
The Active Ingredients label seems to have been an after thought. it is a paneled, blown med embossed H.H.H. MEDICINE THE CELEBRATED D.D.T. 1868 and stands around 5 1/4 "
Anyone have any other information and a thought to the date? It seems early 1900's to me.

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Just because it makes the cloudy skies look better...and a reminder that I need to dust[:'(]

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Nice. Good to see one with a nice label. I've dug a few over the years, less label of course.[;)]
 

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The early 1870s HHHs we find around here are super crude, have gnarly applied tops and are totally western made sparkle glass.
 

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Aschenbach was selling HHH as early as 1893. I assume they aquaired the rights to make it somehow.
The gov prosecuted them for misbranding in 1910 under the F&D Act.
I would say your bottle is fairly late , maybe 1905 +/- a few years.
They probably assumed that since they were an external liniment for animals they would dodge the F&D Act axe but obviously their ad cure claims still got them in trouble.
 

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Aschenbach was selling HHH as early as 1893. I assume they aquaired the rights to make it somehow.
The gov prosecuted them for misbranding in 1910 under the F&D Act.
I would say your bottle is fairly late , maybe 1905 +/- a few years.
They probably assumed that since they were an external liniment for animals they would dodge the F&D Act axe but obviously their ad cure claims still got them in trouble.
Do you have any idea of when they began to stop calling it a horse medicine or implied 'man or beast' and labeling it for solely for human use as this one seems to be?
 

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one of the provisions of the F&D Act was that non-prescrip meds must list their ingrediants on the label.
Many compies did it premptively before the F&D ACT.

You label is probably early stock and they ammended it with the ingrediants sticker at the top in an attempt to comply.
Indicating its most likely post 1906 when it was sold.
 

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