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older looking Corked bottle found in embankment

RCO

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May 17, 2012
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Ontario , Canada
I poked around the hillside a lot but only made a couple of finds , there is for sure broken plates there I checked them and could see markings / colour but there badly damaged

only found 3 bottles , 2 were broken .

a large corked bottle - amber in colour ( no markings or names )

a small corked bottle - clear ( no embossing , only a number on bottom )

a small aqua colour - Northrop & Lyman - Toronto Ont / Dr S N Thomas Eclectric Oil

also found some thin metal strips which didn't appear to be part of anything

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willong

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I would consider that "Electric Oil" bottle alone worth the effort. Even if it is a common product in Canada, that's a nice (post 1876, but prior to 1910 I would guess) example.

As an American, I find it interesting that a "patent medicine" endured in production into the 1960's. Thanks for posting.

There is quite the selection of advertising ephemera related to the product listed on eBay. This might interest you: https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw...55-0&campid=5337590777&customid=&toolid=10001
 
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RCO

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May 17, 2012
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Ontario , Canada
I would consider that "Electric Oil" bottle alone worth the effort. Even if it is a common product in Canada, that's a nice (post 1876, but prior to 1910 I would guess) example.

As an American, I find it interesting that a "patent medicine" endured in production into the 1960's. Thanks for posting.

There is quite the selection of advertising ephemera related to the product listed on eBay. This might interest you: https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw...55-0&campid=5337590777&customid=&toolid=10001
its a neat little bottle even if it is common here

do plan to go back there and try poking around again before the end of this week , worried that location might be very bad for bugs soon as it borders a small creek / trees

not really sure what a small farm would of tossed away here back then , my goal would be to find a local item although usually you'd just find common products and unmarked jars / bottles . the likely hood and there being at least a few more bottles in that area is worth another poke around
 

CanadianBottles

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Nice find on the eclectric oil! Even if it's one of the most common patent medicines yours is a nice looking example. Hopefully there's more there! I know these farm dumps aren't always that productive though, it seems like a lot of the time they just didn't throw away all that much stuff until the 40s or so.
 

RCO

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Nice find on the eclectric oil! Even if it's one of the most common patent medicines yours is a nice looking example. Hopefully there's more there! I know these farm dumps aren't always that productive though, it seems like a lot of the time they just didn't throw away all that much stuff until the 40s or so.
this dump does have a different feel than 40's or 50's era dumps , not near the volume

still neat to be poking thru one that has the potential to yield something much older and different than I'm used to finding , everything so far been corked bottle / older style
 

Newfie treasure hunter

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Apr 24, 2021
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Newfoundland canada
the Northrop & Lyman Toronto Ont / eclectric oil bottle Is in good condition , I'm not exactly sure when they used this version but it looks early , seen them before but never dug one ,

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I'm thinking the outskirts of a dump. Look for rocks sticking out because if it was a farm there should be spoils from when they took rocks outta the farmland. Im not shure if this applies to there, but that's what I find a lot in nl. Hope this helps!
 

RCO

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went back and continued poking around the area , wasn't finding a lot if anything most of the time

did find a few things worth noting , more metal pieces which seem out of place and wonder if they were originally attached to wood

I checked out the broken plates some more , is a couple different ones in various areas , far too damaged to make out much , one does have a mark on bottom that says made in England , as most of the settlers here from England that makes sense for them to bring old china/dishes from home

found 1 area that had a couple old metal cans and an odd metal piece that looks like a lid maybe ? also found a possible small glass jar with a metal lid

only found 1 bottle and it was broken , an aqua coloured bottle similar to other but for another product . I was able to id it as being a " FC Hagyard Chemist " bottle , he made some sort of medical oil product which was sold in Ontario / Canada

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RCO

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May 17, 2012
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Ontario , Canada
I'm thinking the outskirts of a dump. Look for rocks sticking out because if it was a farm there should be spoils from when they took rocks outta the farmland. Im not shure if this applies to there, but that's what I find a lot in nl. Hope this helps!
it has be confused , its a steep embankment along a busy road

basically - Road > some trees > embankment ( sandy few rocks ) > small creek

someone also cut down a large Hemlock tree years ago and its lying at the bottom of the embankment , not sure why they cut it down and just left it there , its in the way of a prime area to check

plan to take a break from this one for now , could always check it again in the fall if I come up with any new ideas
 

Newfie treasure hunter

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Apr 24, 2021
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Newfoundland canada
it has be confused , its a steep embankment along a busy road

basically - Road > some trees > embankment ( sandy few rocks ) > small creek

someone also cut down a large Hemlock tree years ago and its lying at the bottom of the embankment , not sure why they cut it down and just left it there , its in the way of a prime area to check

plan to take a break from this one for now , could always check it again in the fall if I come up with any new ideas
Check after the next big rain storm. Might help uncover some glass or other indicators of a dump.
 

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