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Chris Rowell,
baltbottles what a find, and what a repair job restoration you achieved on this tiny bottle. Beautiful is all I can say to describe it and honored to now have it grace my collection. What craftsmanship went into this repair,you CAN NOT and I repeat CAN NOT see the repair with the naked unaided eye. Only on a tight in closeup with the lens zoomed to the max can you see a very small fraction of a line of demarcation from glass to the epoxied body work on the flared lip of this very rare and historical bottle. I never thought twice about allowing Chris to perform this repair as he made me feel very at ease and quite confident that the end result would be very pleasing to the eye. Now some thoughts on the bottles age and place of manufacture.
Dr. Dyott never mentioned in any of the ads from newspapers and prices current lists and periodicals I have in my personal collection which number over 50 from as early as 1807 up to 1839 a round small shaped medicine vial embossed with his name on it T W DYOTT laid on very hastily and crooked. He spoke often of vials for sale but never did he once mention a round very small vial lettered with his name on it. This bottle is quite crude and I feel it is from the beginning not the end of Dyotts patent medicines.T W Dyott was mentioning Dr Robertsons medicines as early as 1807 and he gained an interest in the Olive glass works in Glassboro New Jersey in the year 1815 which was advertising that they were producing flint glass already as early as the year 1785. Dyott would have needed a place for manufacture as the Kensington glass works were temporarily in limbo following the war of 1812 and the fact that Glassboro was less then 12 miles away.
The look and shape of the bottles flared mouth much more favors a late 18th century type bottle then an 1820s to 30s similar vial with a flatter top.The fact that there have been only a very small handful less then 5 of these bottles ever dug or let alone seen by diggers and bottle collectors ( including George and Helen Mckearin ) in the 20th and now the 21st century lends me more to believe this was one of Dyotts early attempts at bottling and selling of his medicines. Dyott had advertised as early as 1809 as having put his Dr ROBERTSONs FAMILY MEDICINES in square flint bottles embossed with his name on them.
I would tend to think this bottle is more likely much closer to the year 1810 in manufacture then 1830. Based on the listed Dr Roberstsons medicines in newspapers in the mid 1820s right on up until 1839 the year of his business failure and the amounts listed on hand as being 3000 dozen year after year one would have to think more then 5 of these would have turned up by now. With as much construction in Philadelphia that has occurred near Dyotts warehouse and where most of the populace in the early 19th century was located many more of these should in all probability have been found by now from very deep digs and all of the privy digging by bottle collectors in the last 40 years.
Again Chris I cant stress it enough, what a great bottle you recovered,which is very very deeply appreciated by a person who is so very connected to the output of the one and only true American Glass mogul Dr Thomas William Dyott. Having this bottle now and seeing Dyotts 1820 Kensington glass works uncovered earlier this year in person has reinvigorated me as a collector again and made me much more appreciative of what I have in my own collection and has opened yet another chapter of Dyott to explore in the coming years.
You my friend will receive full credit for your find and I want to contact John Paster and be able to tell this very important glass related story to our fellow collectors particularly ones who covet Dyott made products. Your input of the dig that uncovered this gem will be needed to tell the most accurate version of this amazing find. Thanks again Chris and I mean this sincerely if any of you fellow collectors have a repair which is possible and fees-able and you have been contemplating....think no more Chris is the man for the job as the following pictures can attest to....Can you find me a Dr Lees now Chris then my collection would be complete.[8D][
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baltbottles what a find, and what a repair job restoration you achieved on this tiny bottle. Beautiful is all I can say to describe it and honored to now have it grace my collection. What craftsmanship went into this repair,you CAN NOT and I repeat CAN NOT see the repair with the naked unaided eye. Only on a tight in closeup with the lens zoomed to the max can you see a very small fraction of a line of demarcation from glass to the epoxied body work on the flared lip of this very rare and historical bottle. I never thought twice about allowing Chris to perform this repair as he made me feel very at ease and quite confident that the end result would be very pleasing to the eye. Now some thoughts on the bottles age and place of manufacture.
Dr. Dyott never mentioned in any of the ads from newspapers and prices current lists and periodicals I have in my personal collection which number over 50 from as early as 1807 up to 1839 a round small shaped medicine vial embossed with his name on it T W DYOTT laid on very hastily and crooked. He spoke often of vials for sale but never did he once mention a round very small vial lettered with his name on it. This bottle is quite crude and I feel it is from the beginning not the end of Dyotts patent medicines.T W Dyott was mentioning Dr Robertsons medicines as early as 1807 and he gained an interest in the Olive glass works in Glassboro New Jersey in the year 1815 which was advertising that they were producing flint glass already as early as the year 1785. Dyott would have needed a place for manufacture as the Kensington glass works were temporarily in limbo following the war of 1812 and the fact that Glassboro was less then 12 miles away.
The look and shape of the bottles flared mouth much more favors a late 18th century type bottle then an 1820s to 30s similar vial with a flatter top.The fact that there have been only a very small handful less then 5 of these bottles ever dug or let alone seen by diggers and bottle collectors ( including George and Helen Mckearin ) in the 20th and now the 21st century lends me more to believe this was one of Dyotts early attempts at bottling and selling of his medicines. Dyott had advertised as early as 1809 as having put his Dr ROBERTSONs FAMILY MEDICINES in square flint bottles embossed with his name on them.
I would tend to think this bottle is more likely much closer to the year 1810 in manufacture then 1830. Based on the listed Dr Roberstsons medicines in newspapers in the mid 1820s right on up until 1839 the year of his business failure and the amounts listed on hand as being 3000 dozen year after year one would have to think more then 5 of these would have turned up by now. With as much construction in Philadelphia that has occurred near Dyotts warehouse and where most of the populace in the early 19th century was located many more of these should in all probability have been found by now from very deep digs and all of the privy digging by bottle collectors in the last 40 years.
Again Chris I cant stress it enough, what a great bottle you recovered,which is very very deeply appreciated by a person who is so very connected to the output of the one and only true American Glass mogul Dr Thomas William Dyott. Having this bottle now and seeing Dyotts 1820 Kensington glass works uncovered earlier this year in person has reinvigorated me as a collector again and made me much more appreciative of what I have in my own collection and has opened yet another chapter of Dyott to explore in the coming years.
You my friend will receive full credit for your find and I want to contact John Paster and be able to tell this very important glass related story to our fellow collectors particularly ones who covet Dyott made products. Your input of the dig that uncovered this gem will be needed to tell the most accurate version of this amazing find. Thanks again Chris and I mean this sincerely if any of you fellow collectors have a repair which is possible and fees-able and you have been contemplating....think no more Chris is the man for the job as the following pictures can attest to....Can you find me a Dr Lees now Chris then my collection would be complete.[8D][
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