Orange Crush Amber "Krinkly" Dating Help

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

were they making ACL's in 1931? LEON.

1941 sorry i was incorrect.

 

[SODABOB]

Michael Rosman Orange Crush Bottles - Identifying & Dating


Krinkly Amber

http://www.angelfire.com/yt/soda/Rosman-OC-amber.html


Krinkly Clear

http://www.angelfire.com/yt/soda/Rosman-OC-clear.html

 

[mrosman]

Michael Rosman Orange Crush Bottles - Identifying & Dating


Krinkly Amber

http://www.angelfire.com/yt/soda/Rosman-OC-amber.html


Krinkly Clear

http://www.angelfire.com/yt/soda/Rosman-OC-clear.html

 

[mrosman]

Hi Soda Bob.... the two websites you write as 'ancient'.... written way back when just starting collecting and classifying Orange Crush - probably about 1990...
More recent and up to date is my book, on Ebay or Kijiji.....

 

[mrosman]

The dating help you mention, for everything from Wards to the modern era is all outlined in my book

 

[SODABOB]

Michael

Good to hear from you and thanks for letting us know about your book - which I should have known about but didn't. Here's a pic of your 2nd Edition so others will know what to look for.

Thanks again,

Bob

 

[shadeone]

I have the latest edition of the book. Still doesn't answer the main question I have here though. What proof (aside from the few "L64" stamped bottles in question) is there that there were amber krinkly bottles being produced past 1955, after the introduction of the Mae-West bottle?
Where are the krinkly bottles dated 1957-1963 (if L64 really means 1964)?
I still find it hard to believe that there would still be amber krinkly bottles being produced after the media blitz surrounding their "new amazing bottle" in the mid-late 50s. Companies that big have nationwide standardization guidelines to follow.

 

[Canadacan]

I have the latest edition of the book. Still doesn't answer the main question I have here though. What proof (aside from the few "L64" stamped bottles in question) is there that there were amber krinkly bottles being produced past 1955, after the introduction of the Mae-West bottle?
Where are the krinkly bottles dated 1957-1963 (if L64 really means 1964)?
I still find it hard to believe that there would still be amber krinkly bottles being produced after the media blitz surrounding their "new amazing bottle" in the mid-late 50s. Companies that big have nationwide standardization guidelines to follow.

You are absolutely correct!... another collector that is on the same page as me. You posted my 1954 7oz Krinkly which was the last of those bottles, it's possible they made a few into 1955 because that was the transition year. If the bottle marked L64 meant 1964 on the back it'd be marked Crush International Inc ….in the summer of 1959 Orange Crush Company became Crush International Inc.

Another thing that I keep refuting is the date of the brown Mae west bottles. In many articles they suggest or print the noted year on them as 1955, this is impossible because those bottles have Crush International Inc. on the back....as I mentioned that was not introduced until mid to late 1959.
I will show this in these next photos.
To further this, the same applies to the Canadian 26oz and 10oz brown Mae west, those bottles are complicated for collectors to understand because they are marked 'design reg'd 1956' ...the bilingual ones are not marked 1956. This leads people to believe that they are from 1956....and that is incorrect.
In 1965 in Canada and the USA they had a campaign and brought back the brown bottle! Canadian ads touted "It's BACK!...by popular demand! or "Back in the Unique Brown bottle"

1954 Krinkly and the new style bottle introduced in 1955...this one is dated 1957.

Note the back on the clear 1957 is marked Orange Crush Company.

These are two of my USA browns...they are not from 1955,56,57,etc

Note the back has Crush International Inc., these are 1960's bottles
Now I could not get any date codes off of these two but rest assured they did not have Crush International Inc. on them in the 50's.

This ad alone should convince any none believer!...the carton is also era correct with the newer Crush International Inc logo in the center.
Orange Crush-South Carolina- The Greenville News, 24 Aug 1965, Tue, Main Edition, Page 6

 

[SODABOB]

I'm doing some research and might have found an explanation for the L64 bottle, but because I'm still working on that I will reserve comment until I'm done. In the meantime these Patent designs should help answer a couple of questions, especially when and who patented the so called "Mae "West" bottle.

Neal C Ward - 1920 - 55,892

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD55892

Albert E Reppening - 1938 - 110,731

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD110731S/

James Nash - 1955-1956 - 177,271

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD177271S/en?q=Bottle&inventor=James+Nash&oq=James+Nash+Bottle

 

[shadeone]

Probably should actually be called the "ice cream cone" bottle haha