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This one is a little out if my range of knowledge. I know the basics, but that's about it. Any help with age or origin would be appreciated. Nice jagged pontil. String lip ? 9 & 3/4 inches tall. 3 inches across base. Corked and contents ![attachment=image(XC).jpg]
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Last ones. Last pic is a tool mark at heel.[attachment=image(XI).jpg]
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My guess would be early 1800's French wine.It would be a fine example for a wine bottle time line if you putting one together . I've seen those button like tool marks but don't know anything about them as my main focus has been on earlier forms.
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Thanks Tim. Couple more questions, leave as is or empty the contents ? I'm leaning towards removing the contents to show the color better. If that won't affect the value too much. Don't want to ruin it. Mitch
 

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Isn't really old wine like that sometimes incredibly valuable? Though I guess you would probably have to know what it is, just selling it as "probably wine, extremely old" might not work too well. I'd leave the contents until you're sure though, I mean you never know.
 

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Oh please don't ever remove any original contents! The bottle is French or possibly Belgian, c1770-1790, freeblown, blowpipe pontil, classic wine bottle for that era and place (that base edge mark is just a random manufacture aspect, not anything specifically caused by pontil tools or anything). it looks a good example, but as these are still relatively available, one with original contents and still corked properly is of much more interest than a super clean sterilised one that shines brightly in a window display. This on still has it's history so please keep it that way. Look carefully if there is not any impression on any wax on top of the seal, sometimes hidden under the accumulated dust/grime. Also check the cork is in good condition, and preferably this should be stored lying down so that the cork doesn't dry out and shrink.www.earlyglass.com Facebook group: Earlyglass for sale & show
 

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Thanks for the info Mark, it is much appreciated ! I will leave it as is. Any ideas on how to clean the top of the cork ? And normally I don't ask about value, but this is the oldest bottle I own so I would like to know what it's worth. Just it case I find something similar again:). Mitch
 

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I'd estimate it's worth around $50-$75 empty. With the contents, perhaps more.
 

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Very cool, thank you Dan ! Cleaned the top of the cork, just water and a soft toothbrush, can't really tell anything. Pic[attachment=image.jpg]
 

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