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Hello, I recently came across some information regarding a mineral spring in Genesee County NY known as the Darien Mineral springs, located somewhere in darien lake state park. It went by other names, the Victor spring, and the Perry spring. I am looking for information regarding the location of this spring. All the information I know is in the following images as long as some pictures of the bottles from the location. If anyone knows anything about this spring, information would be much appreciated.
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The spring can be found on some old maps and a town comprehensive plan map, but none of these mapped locations are very accurate or seem to agree with each other.
 

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That is interesting, however as I am not too reliant on these old maps, this town plan also has it labeled ( number 32) however when I investigated these locations last summer nothing turned up. My only theory is that they are farther north as stated in the towns sesquicentennial book written in 1982, one year earlier is when an expedition was launched to re discover them and they found tapped wells "Near the north boundary of the park"
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Here it is? Maybe? if you follow the 1870 Map where Creek Splits off & follow the New Google Earth map where the Creek Splits off it would put it around the pink circled spot. The Creek is Ellicot Creek. LEON.
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That would be the most logical way, if so those early maps are off by a great deal, I marked the rough supposed location of the tributary on the hill-shade map, the actual stream and split appears to be farther north. likelylocation of spring in the circle.
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There is two splits on that creek. one closer to rd. 21 or Broadway on your map & one farther up. The farther up split is the likely spot. LEON.

p.s. remember in 1870's maps there was no sattelites or planes for ariel photographs, just guess work back then i'm guessing.
 

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The first map Leon posted looks very similar to a series of maps which were done for Ontario in 1879, similar enough that I suspect they were done by the same people. The Ontario ones are typically very accurate (by 1870s standards). They can't be used to get exact co-ordinates for a building but they are close enough to get you within a few dozen metres of the building, typically. The location of still-existing buildings can even be used to roughly line up the map with current aerial views.
I took Leon's 1876 map and overlaid it into Google Earth, and lined it up with the roads/railroad and the few remaining visible property boundaries. It turns out that line at the top is not Sumner Road, it's a line of property boundaries which was midway between Sumner Road and Broadway. That means that the site would be further south, roughly in the middle of the park near the blue tributary on the hillshade map. If Leon's map is as accurate as the Ontario one then I suspect the springs, as of 1876 at least, were located fairly close to the co-ordinates: 42 54'35.75" N / 78 24'56.40"W. While the early maps aren't perfect, they definitely wouldn't have located the springs on an entirely different person's property, so that would rule out the northern tributary as a possible location.
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