Treasure found at local market-Bellarmine Or Bartmann Jug

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I think the face and cartouches are put on immediately after the jug is turned. They must be applied while the application clay and the jug clay have the same moisture content. Otherwise, the applied clay may pop off the jug in the kiln. That's my understanding from my potter friend.
 

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I think the face and cartouches are put on immediately after the jug is turned. They must be applied while the application clay and the jug clay have the same moisture content. Otherwise, the applied clay may pop off the jug in the kiln. That's my understanding from my potter friend.
That's what I have learned, I also can on some see a light seam going around the face. I've loved these jugs ever since i first saw one. I've never found a piece of one. One day maybe.
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That's what I have learned, I also can on some see a light seam going around the face. I've loved these jugs ever since i first saw one. I've never found a piece of one. One day maybe.
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Good hunting, ROBBYBOBBY64! I found the fragment on the bottom of a tidal, blackwater, Carolina river. I searched in vain for more of the jug, but searching by feel - zero viz - is hit and miss. Ordinarily, I wouldn't keep broken things, but this bellarmine fragment awed me with it's age and character.
 

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I don't know much about Bellermine jugs. But always found them quite interesting. If someone did make repro's of them
I would have to wonder about it. What I don't see in the pictures provided is wear. A jug that has been around for over
three hundred yeas is going to show evidence of that. I would look closely at the base. That is where the most wear would show. But I would also expect to see some on the body as well. Little chips in the glaze, scratches, etc. This one just looks
too good to me. And the style of the base doesn't look right compared to what I've seen.

Mark Evans
 

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