Vernors Ginger Ale 150th B-Day

[hemihampton]

That close up pic of top looks like a ABM bottle. Automated Bottle Machine. Do you have any where the seam line disappears before it reaches the top of bottle? LEON.

 

[hemihampton]

The Suspense was killing me so I had to find my 1906 bottle. Got good & bad news. Good news is I found it much quicker then I suspected, only 2nd box out of like 30 boxes. Usually what I'm looking for is in last box. Bad news is it's just a ABM which surprised me. I'd guess these bottles date from at least 1906 but how many years did they produce them with that Pure Food 1906 Statement I don't know. 1 year? 5 years? I'd like to see what if any Vernor's has the tooled crown top & non ABM. LEON.
P.S. Double click pic to supersize.

 

[VernorsGuy]

That close up pic of top looks like a ABM bottle. Automated Bottle Machine. Do you have any where the seam line disappears before it reaches the top of bottle? LEON.

Leon-

I'm a real amateur when it comes to identifying bottles. My close up was of a Food and Drug Act bottle. I'll look at some of my others later tonight and see if there's a difference.

Keith

 

[hemihampton]

Keith look at my pic below. It will show you the ABM lines to look for. ABM came out in 1903 or 1905. forgot which date, going by memory. But not all bottle switched to ABM at that time. Some used the tooled crown or non ABM for a few years after this date just like they did with the blob after the crown top came out so no definate switch date as it was a slow transition that took years. Look at all your Vernor's bottles for these lines at the top. If any don't have the lines at the top it's probably a older tooled crown top or pre ABM, being older. LEON.




P.S. DOUBLE CLICK PIC TO SUPERSIZE.

 

[hemihampton]

Keith, Here's a pic of my Straight Side Michigan Coke. Notice the side seam lines disappear in neck before they go all the way to top. This is a older tooled crown top pre ABM. LEON.

 

[SODABOB]

Keith and Leon

Do any of your early Vernor's soda bottles have a makers mark, words, letters, numbers, symbols, etc. that might identify which glass company made them and when?

 

[SODABOB]

I thought this newspaper article was interesting ...

Detroit Free Press ~ February 9, 1907

Notice where it says ...

"A good portion of my forty years of business life has been devoted to the manufacturer and sale of ginger ale ..."

Note: 1907 - 40 years = 1867

(I wonder how many years of 40 years is considered "A good portion" ? / Apparently not all 40 years ? )

Also notice the reference to the "February 30, 1906 Food & Drugs Act" and the "Serial Number 1246"







Compare to this extract bottle that has the Food & Drugs Act label

Note: The same info is on some of the soda bottles, which also have the Serial Number 1246





Leon's Bottle

 

[hemihampton]

Since that was said in erly 1907, early Feb of 1907 you don't count the whole year of 1907. SO, Wouldn't be 1866-1906= 40 years.? LEON.

 

[hemihampton]

Bob, Yes I do have codes or #'s on 2 of my early Vernor's bottles. Hard to see them but here's some pics. LEON.

 

[SODABOB]

Since that was said in erly 1907, early Feb of 1907 you don't count the whole year of 1907. SO, Wouldn't be 1866-1906= 40 years.? LEON.

Leon

I never doubted that James Vernor opened his first drug store in 1866. But I do wonder what "a good portion" of 41 years amounts to?