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When Vernors relocated to 33 Woodward in 1896 or 7 it was supposable so they could concentrate on there Vernors full time & opened a bottling department at that location at same time. If they did open a bottling plant there in 1896, shouldn't there first bottle be from 1896? And if so where or what is it? LEON.
 

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The other day I saw this identical invoice/letterhead dated 1897, but I did not save a picture of it. I'll see if I can find it again. Notice ...

The Siphon Bottle ...

Vernor's Ginger Ale Invoice Letterhead 1900.jpg
 

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Next question ...

Is it even remotely possible that Vernor's first carbonated and bottled ginger ale was sold in a siphon bottles?
 

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Sounds like the bottling department was used for mass production. I don't think Siphon bottles were ever mass produced. Who used Siphon bottles? Hotels/Motels, Restuarants, Train Cars, Boats, ect. LEON..
 

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Sounds like the bottling department was used for mass production. I don't think Siphon bottles were ever mass produced. Who used Siphon bottles? Hotels/Motels, Restuarants, Train Cars, Boats, ect. LEON..

Leon

I should have been more specific in the way I worded my question. The point of emphasis I was trying to make and draw attention to is the fact that the 1900 invoice/letterhead that Keith posted shows a siphon bottle but not a soda bottle. I realize the invoice itself could have been printed earlier than 1900, but even if it was, why does it show a soda fountain 'outfit' and a 'siphon bottle' but no soda bottle?
 

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P.S.

In other words ...

It would be helpful to determine, if possible, when that type of invoice was first used? The stamped date does not tell us that. Maybe Keith knows.
 

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P.S. ~ P.S.

I just discovered the invoice has 33 Woodward Ave on the left side of the ribbon below the name Vernor's - look close! So I'm thinking the earliest date that particular invoice could have been used is 1896. Right?

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P.S. ~ P.S. ~ P.S.

I know we're all on the same page in that we're trying to determine when Vernor's first soda pop bottle was produced. I acknowledge that! I'm just trying to point out that the first fully prepared and 'bottled' version of the ginger ale, no matter who it was intended for or who used it, might have been a siphon bottle - and that the siphon bottle might have led to the soda bottle.
 

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After reading the gazillion pages of this thread, I believe Sodabob may be correct in assuming Vernors was first put up in Siphon style bottles. Would be nice if a Seltzer bottle collector had one of those siphon bottles. I do not think we will ever know for sure what kind of bottle Vernors started out with,but, it could well have been a siphon bottle sold from there Fountains, reusable and probably sold with a deposit on them ...Andy
 
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