Vernors Ginger Ale 150th B-Day

hemihampton · Sep 23, 2016

VernorsGuy said:
This is a very interesting receipt. Just to add to the mystery, attached is a photo of a Vernor's extract can - not bottle. I've never seen one in person. It sure looks early, though.

I've seen Pepsi & coke & others with syrup bottles (tin can & glass) similar to this. Pic below.

hemihampton · Sep 23, 2016

Two other Trademarks with Dates. LEON.

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

Leon

Thanks for the bottle pics!

Does either one of them have the Glenshaw codes or any other type of makers mark, etc?

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

SODABOB said:
I'm currently searching for the earliest reference I can find that uses the word "Bottling" in connection with Vernor's Ginger Ale. I could end up being wrong, but I doubt they would use the word "Bottling" in connection with the extract. The word "Bottling" is almost always used in reference to the mass production and bottling of the carbonated version.

Preliminary Results ...

This is the earliest reference I have found so far that list James Vernor as ...

"Bottler / Bottling"

Detroit City Directory ~ 1905

Vernor's Bottling 1905 Detroit Directory (2).jpg

Vernor's Bottling 1905 Detroit Directory.jpg

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

Final Results !!!

Detroit City Directory ~ 1895

(Druggist and Florist - But Not Bottler)

Vernor's Bottling 1895 Detroit Directory.jpg

Detroit City Directory ~ 1896

Notice it list 235 and 33 Woodward Avenue - Indicates Transition

(Earliest reference I can find for James Vernor as a Bottler / Bottling)

Vernor's Bottling 1896 Detroit Directory.jpg

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

Sooooooooooooooooo ...

I guess that means there should be a 1896 Soda Bottle

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

I can only speak for myself, but I'm not jumping the gun just yet about there being an "identifiable" 1896 Vernor's soda bottle. If such a critter exist it should (in my opinion) have been a Hutchinson bottle and not a Crown bottle. The earliest crown closure bottle I'm aware of is from 1894, and they are extremely hard to find. However, whether the 1896 Vernor's bottle was a Hutchinson or Crown, it may have been generic and not embossed with his name. But I'm keeping an open mind and will see what develops.

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

P.S.

Regardless of whether a 1896 Vernor's Ginger Ale soda bottle was embossed or not, you'd think it would have at least had a paper label. But what do we know about Vernor's paper labels prior to about 1911?

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

Here's the earliest Crown closure bottle I'm aware of ...

Note: According to Bill Lockhart, the 1894 date indicates when this particular bottle was made and not when the bottler was established ...

View attachment 175093

SODABOB · Sep 24, 2016

F. H. Finley and Son ~ Washington, D.C.

Timeline of company and its bottles ...

http://www.chosi.org/bottles/finley/finley.htm

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