I'm probably going to start political parties on the antique bottles page due to this question. Lol.

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

Thats a crazy twist looking papy bottle. So I guess they were still making bottles into the 1920's that used manganese as a clarifier. Whether from recycled glass or not. Still this proves at least to me. That there are always exceptions to the rule.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

Yes sometimes we trap ourselves into little boxes.
"Papy of them all" is the full title- I had to have it being amethyst and I can ignore the case wear.

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

Yes sometimes we trap ourselves into little boxes.
"Papy of them all" is the full title- I had to have it being amethyst and I can ignore the case wear.

That's a great bottle. What case wear? I don't see any at all.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

That's a great bottle. What case wear? I don't see any at all.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

Its there just hard to see at certain angles.

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

Its there just hard to see at certain angles.

Story of my life buddy! I'm too thin! Lol!
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[CanadianBottles]

Here are some late 20's soda bottles that were all manufactured by J.T. and A Hamilton glass works out of Pittsburgh bearing their mark (H inside triangle) they used from 1900 to 1943 . Two are 1928 dates and the Papy bottle is 1929, (shown is a patent date of 1928 for that particular design). The last 2 clear ones are also 1929 and carry the very slightest of pink tint. A later Papy bottle I have in clear bearing no maker marks apparently made at a different glass house may show that they switched , being unhappy with the product Hamilton put out that was laced with manganese. Later bottles by Hamilton showed they finally got their act together. It doesn't hurt my feelings any because I think they look great in the window.

Oh those are really interesting! I always wondered why no one switched back to manganese after the war when it became easy to acquire again, so it looks like some did after all. I'll have to keep an eye out to see if I can find any more recently dated manganese bottles, I don't remember coming across any deco bottles that turn purple before.

 

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

Oh those are really interesting! I always wondered why no one switched back to manganese after the war when it became easy to acquire again, so it looks like some did after all. I'll have to keep an eye out to see if I can find any more recently dated manganese bottles, I don't remember coming across any deco bottles that turn purple before.

These are the only decos I've seen (J T &A Hamilton glass works) that are amethyst. Well actually I was just remembering seeing a row of 5 different ones sold on e bay by a professorshipsalot. I do have a weird colored Lime Cola but I think it was a ice blue that was irradiated.

 

[buriedtreasuretime]

OKAY GUYS. Today I'm going to ask the question that I hear many people say different answers on. WHEN (circa) did manganese glass stop generally being made. I hear 1915, 1918, and even 1920s. Of course small bottling plants may have kept using manganese but I'm talking about the majority of plants.

I used to pick up 1/5 liquor bottles in the Nevada desert that said federal law prohibits the sale or reuse of this bottle. They were not clear white glass but had a fair amount of yellow in their bases. Some of these were cork top !! This was probably for me in the 60’s and 70’s.


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[SODABOB]

Some misconceptions about glass and bottle production are often perpetuated by collectors - which does not always jive with empirical evidence discovered by researchers. In other words, it was probably a bottle collector who first suggested that the use of manganese was discontinued around 1915. However, when we take a closer look, we see that some (Manganese/Selenium) amethyst colored bottles were produced as late as the early 1930s. I think it would make for an interesting search to see if anyone can find a sun-colored-amethyst (SCA) bottle that is clearly dated from the 1930s. In the meantime, this link is to the best article I am aware of about the subject.

Front Matter - 40(2) (sha.org)

 

[SODABOB]

P.S.

Speaking of purple bottles and Cecil Munsey, this 2014 article by him is interesting. By the way, if you haven't heard, Cecil passed away in 2019.

Born: May 21, 1935
Died: November 17, 2019


1305 Bottle Irradiation (sha.org)

 

[buriedtreasuretime]

Here is something else to wrap around this possibly. Heat may be a factor as well as seen in these rhodochrosite (manganese carbonate) mineral samples that got there color without exposure to sunlight. Pulled right out the dark depths displaying rich color. These examples were formed with hydrothermal heat in most cases. In some cases this rhodochrosite mineral was used as an ore of manganese. There are other minerals that are colored pink by manganese but I'll stop here.

Yes sometimes we trap ourselves into little boxes.
"Papy of them all" is the full title- I had to have it being amethyst and I can ignore the case wear.

I think that trilogy of pale color and texture is the bomb.


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