someone posted results earlier on ultrasonic cleaning, they had some really good results on bottles that were not sick. heres a link to it
https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-446411/mpage-1/key-ultrasonic%252Ccleaning/tm.htm#446989
found it after posted, got kiefer probaly mineral water from ky in tub of acid now trying for better results than just cleaning the clay here does not take water very well,any minerals from run off water just seem to fill the bottle with dam white stain or haze