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Have had another look and the base I thought 1790 -1800 does not have the sagged features of a bottle of that age so would think all are in the 1850 - 1860 period
 

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everybody, thanks for all the responces! Albiet a little all over the map. Speaking of maps, I think Andy there leaning towards the old shore line maps might be the way to go. I'll work on getting the area of the map in question up in a post here in a little bit. Cheers!
 

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Here is a map of the original east river shore line with a street grid overlay from 1880. Overlayed over that in pink is the out line of Peter Cooper Village/Stuyvesant Town, where I work. I have marked 4 places with green dots indicating excavation sites where artifacts have been found. Dot #1, in Peter Cooper Village is where these bases here came from, under the basement floor, about 13 feet below grade, and out towards the edge of the original shore line as indicated on the map. Dot #2 is where I found a green iron pontiled mineral water with no top [:(] among other awesome 1840s-50s colored soda shards from a hole 8 feet deep. Dot #3 is where I found pieces of those feathered blue edge plates(not sure what they are called), and a piece of a yellow amber udolphowolfe's from a hole 5 feet deep. And finally dot #4 is inside my shop where they will soon excavate a large hole to install underground fuel tanks for the fleet equipment I manage. they should be digging down at least 10 feet here. I can hardly contain my excitement.

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Like everything I read and even write I don't trust 90% of what's on the internet. Where was the map from? Stuyvesant Town is near Alphabet City but what got filled when? The dutch were enlarging the area in the 17th century I do know that but it must have taken decades upon. I'd want a true map of the period on paper and authenticated.
There was also the little things like the American Revolution and the 1812 thing that I imagine disrupted some progress, not to mention the large time frame of this countries near bankruptcy. Was there a payroll and a workforce then? Inquiring minds want to know.
Kind of like now really but plenty of workers, just no payroll.
 

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Here's one more interesting overlay I stumbled accross Showing Peter Stuyvesant's estate in an old book titled "As you pass by" by Kenneth Holcomb Dunshee. The book is about New York's early firemen, and other related lower Manhattan history. Funny thing is, I found this book today in Sty Town's junk room!

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