If the picture is over $300. what would the bottle be worth

[glass man]

ORIGINAL: surfaceone

Just once more for the heck of it..if it is a picture from the civil war it would be a tin type...right?

Hey Jamie,

Tin types were not the only process used at the time. Some other earlier photographic processes were Daguerreotypes, Ambrotypes, and Callotypes.

The one in question is an Albumen print in a Carte de Viste format. Albumen prints were made from glass negatives and printed on paper coated with egg whites. Did you have a chance to see Melissa's later American Aristotype Co. bottle?

From. Carte de Viste of President Lincoln.

I'm not a photo expert but I'll agree that it has to post date the war by at least about year minimum. I think the bottle production was into the time this pic could have been made, not to mention the bottle was definably already a part of history so the pic could have been made anytime after, even a couple weeks ago could be possible.

Hey Eric,

One thing I've learned in bottle history is that the dates of production are not always totally "accurate." Just because the W.H. Ware patent was 1866, does not mean that the bottles were not already being produced, in my opinion. If it does post date the war by a year or more, it would not be unusual to see men dressed in their former uniforms, or parts thereof.

The "Excelsior Traveling Artists Peter & Kresge" are documented to have been active at this time. I've not seen anything in this Carte de Viste to make me think it not genuine, and of the period.

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Yes BRO. I understand this...you know it may have been a good idea to have looked up cabinet cards before I said anything..if I had I woulda found out they came out in the early 1860s...as FORREST GUMP'S MOM USED TO SAY"Stupid is as stupid does"![8D] Sorry I ruined yall's picure party![] JAMIE

 

[gotthefever]

The photo is a fake look at the bottle see the highlights on each side of the neck then the black band running through the center of the neck. That band was made with a card in front of the flash to cut that hot spot out. Plus the bottle is too big and too new. There are a million fake photos out there especially civil war type photos.You actually think a photographer would pose someone with a bitters bottle for a prop back then?? Think about it

 

[epackage]

ORIGINAL: gotthefever

You actually think a photographer would pose someone with a bitters bottle for a prop back then?? Think about it

There have been many photos showing people with bottles back then, I know the seller and you're mistaken....[8|]

 

[epackage]

You must have missed these, or are they fakes too?? Check out the same section of the lip on the second pic and the one from the original pic, same thing you tried to say made the original pic a fake...

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[Steve/sewell]

Sorry to rehash this one up again,but I am in the camp that this one is real no photo shopping what so ever. Pants on the ground pants on the ground.
Its the pants,I believe it would have taken a level of trickery to achieve this that the person doing so would not have gone this far to cover their tracks.The dark pants waist line passes through the bottle in the picture plus the light sources on all the objects match up.The scale matches up nicely so I say this one is real.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ca-1870-Tintype-Man-w-Wine-Bottle-Historical-Union-Clasped-Hands-Flask-/110899359287?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item19d21dee37

 

[Steve/sewell]

2. Upon further review the bottle was photo shopped and is a fake 1st down........................................ Look at the dark lines on each outer edge of the flask,the one particularly on the right is way to dark.The first picture had me the second one no dice.