Onion bottles??

[Sammitenn]

Hi there I am new to this forum and i think this is where I should post my question, either here or what is it <1900 I have these two bottles that I think are 18c onion bottles. One is amber and one is green. They have both been bought in France the green bottle:kicked in baseapplied lip844g9 inches tall by 5.5 inches wide the yellow bottle:the base is pretty flatnot sure if it has an applied lip but it is wonky740g7.5 inches tall by 5.5 inches wide both have marks in the neck from the turning of the blow pipe. Ill reply to this post with images of the green one

 

[cowseatmaize]

Hello, welcome. The one you have shown looks like a 20th century pseudo copy. I'll wait for the pictures of the other.

 

[Sammitenn]

Hi, thanks for replying.

Here are some photos of the green one. I sent pictures of this one to a uk auction house and they replied today and seem to think it is 19th century would you concur?

Thanks for any info.

 

[cowseatmaize]

Hello again. Not being a collector of European glass I can only give my opinions but if they say 19th I'd counter with just barely. I still think 20th, 1910-40 or so and they may have had a woven basket over them at one time.Hopefully someone will come on with something to say I'm wrong.

 

[earlyglasscollector]

Can only agree with you Eric. I'm afraid most UK Auction houses know very little about early bottles. I'd say early 20thC toowww.earlyglass.com

 

[cowseatmaize]

I can't help but wonder if there isn't still a lot a confusion with the 19th century and the 1900's also. Thanks for the agreement anyway Mark.[]Feel free to make your link clickable if you like also, it's now disallowed.

 

[Sammitenn]

Thank you for your input.

The auction house that gave me the appraisal was Bonhams an internationally well respected auction house. I suppose as these botthes have been made over such a long period of time it makes them quite tricky to date. They only looked at the green one. I dont think there is any confusion with 19th century and 1900's though i know this does confuse many people.

My antique bottle interest has been piqued and illl certainly return with more of my finds.

Thank you for taking the time to look and reply.

 

[earlyglasscollector]

Yes, I'm afraid Bonhams Is often one of the worst. The long established name really means nothing in these circumstacesn and it more depends what actualy guy/girl actually bothered to look at your items and what they personally knew about. Believe me I spend a lot of time (and money!) at Bonhams. There are guys there who genuinely DO know something about early glass, but so often their knowledge is slanted by the notorious British Archeological academic bias towards "ancient" items, which they really can quote scripture and verse on, but anything 17th C YES EVEN AS EARLY AS 17TH C IS CONSIDERED "MODERN" by our archeologists so consequently overlooked and sometimes even disregarded....Sorry, one of my soapbox subjects!!! Ok Eric how do I make links clickable? I hadn't realised they weren't...?ThanksMark www.earlyglass.com

 

[RED Matthews]

To Sammit5enn especially, Your comment about turn lines in the necks of your Onion bottles, surprised me!! i have been studying turn mold and paste mold operations. But I never read or heard of them being on these early mainly European bottles. Can they be pictured>???REWD Matthews