Canadacan
Well-Known Member
Back in 2016 I had purchased a Pepsi bottle with a perfect intact label, 12oz size Canadian (post 1941 era) printed in French and on the correct 12oz swirl bottle. The price was really decent and I had no 12oz example in my collection so I figured what the heck just go for it, at worst it's a NOS label placed on a correct bottle.
Fast forward to 2018 of this month and I decided to delve into this label a little more and started to really compare it with my original NOS labels from Starlite bottlers Sask.
And of course my findings were that this label is in fact a copy, at least in my humble opinion, but I do have a bottle that is in very pristine condition!
So during this research I just discovered another repro label (pre 1941 era) 12oz on green glass with the incorrect Dominion glass date code of 1954!...the internet pictures were enough to reveal the truth, and while my intent is not to harm anyone's reputation I am using the photos for educational purposes. I just cant see how it's possible for labels of this age to have these characteristics...if they were late 1960's labels, yes some have dots but even then they are used systematically for shading purposes. I should add that on some 1940's 50's labels that have a graphic scene such as mountains, it may have dots or cross hatching in shaded areas for detail as well.
On 1980's Crush products with paper labels from Canada I did note they have a dot matrix patterns on them.
If anyone knows any different of the printing process used in the 1940's and can show me that these are legit examples, fill your boots! I have examined all the labels in my collection and have found none exhibit the features of the suspected labels.
NOS on the right...authentic lithograph.
Real label...note the clear white field and the absence of dots...also note inside the letters P and E.
Repro label- Here you can see the field littered with dots left behind by laser printing or inkjet.
Again a close up of the letters on repro label.
Real label.
This is the earlier style label that is also suspect of being a copy.
Date code of 1954....way off for this label!...this bottle helps to confirm my suspicions of a copied label.
This blown up section of label really reveals the dots on both the field and lettering.
And this is my sample NOS label.
This was another green glass from an ended sale, it has a Consumer glass mark on it so I was unable to date the age on it.
The close ups on this one are from the neck tag and the results are the same.
Repro label
My NOS label...photo got a bit fuzzy but you can see the difference.
Fast forward to 2018 of this month and I decided to delve into this label a little more and started to really compare it with my original NOS labels from Starlite bottlers Sask.
And of course my findings were that this label is in fact a copy, at least in my humble opinion, but I do have a bottle that is in very pristine condition!
So during this research I just discovered another repro label (pre 1941 era) 12oz on green glass with the incorrect Dominion glass date code of 1954!...the internet pictures were enough to reveal the truth, and while my intent is not to harm anyone's reputation I am using the photos for educational purposes. I just cant see how it's possible for labels of this age to have these characteristics...if they were late 1960's labels, yes some have dots but even then they are used systematically for shading purposes. I should add that on some 1940's 50's labels that have a graphic scene such as mountains, it may have dots or cross hatching in shaded areas for detail as well.
On 1980's Crush products with paper labels from Canada I did note they have a dot matrix patterns on them.
If anyone knows any different of the printing process used in the 1940's and can show me that these are legit examples, fill your boots! I have examined all the labels in my collection and have found none exhibit the features of the suspected labels.
NOS on the right...authentic lithograph.
Real label...note the clear white field and the absence of dots...also note inside the letters P and E.
Repro label- Here you can see the field littered with dots left behind by laser printing or inkjet.
Again a close up of the letters on repro label.
Real label.
This is the earlier style label that is also suspect of being a copy.
Date code of 1954....way off for this label!...this bottle helps to confirm my suspicions of a copied label.
This blown up section of label really reveals the dots on both the field and lettering.
And this is my sample NOS label.
This was another green glass from an ended sale, it has a Consumer glass mark on it so I was unable to date the age on it.
The close ups on this one are from the neck tag and the results are the same.
Repro label
My NOS label...photo got a bit fuzzy but you can see the difference.