seam to shoulder, then rotate 1/4 of bottle

[Trying not to break it]

hi everyone. this bottle 1st caught my attention because the glass appeared diff. clearer but with more distortion? it is 3 5/8" tall, bottom 1 5/8, lip 1 1/4" wide. the seam stops at shoulder, then starts 1/4 way around bottle and goes into the lip. no marks on bottom. i hope it shows up in the scan, there is squigley (sp.) lines that i would best decribe as a snake. any help in dating this bottle and why the glass apears diff. would be great. thanks rhona

 

[Trying not to break it]

ops, just discovered that there is a seam around top of shoulder and neck. i take this to be a 3 piece mold. i guess that's why the seams don't line up. is this normal with 3 piece mold. that would make this older then i thought. information woluld be welcome, love to learn. rhona

 

[bigkitty53]

Hi Rhona,
That appears to a pill bottle 1880-90.The 'snake' and the distortion are most likely the result of a cold mold.(1 of the first bottles made that day)The 'snake' would be a drip from the 'gather' of molten glass as it was being inserted into the mold.The drip hardened enough on the cold surface that it didn't fully "blend in"(for lack of a better word.) with the bottle as it was blown.Just another quirk of old glass that makes our hobby so interesting![]

KAT

 

[Trying not to break it]

hi kat , thanks for the reply. i hope i can find some more 1st bottles of the day. do you know if the side seams not lining up and there is a posible shoulder seam around it. is a three piece mold. i have a couple of other bottles like that. i posted a picture of one earlier on this site, also have you seen a screw top bottle in a 3 piece mold, if needed will post a pic. thanks again, rhona

 

[bigkitty53]

ORIGINAL: Trying not to break it

hi kat , thanks for the reply. i hope i can find some more 1st bottles of the day. do you know if the side seams not lining up and there is a posible shoulder seam around it. is a three piece mold. i have a couple of other bottles like that. i posted a picture of one earlier on this site, also have you seen a screw top bottle in a 3 piece mold, if needed will post a pic. thanks again, rhona

Hi Rhona,
Not sure what you mean by side seams not lining up and a possible shoulder seam?
And no,never seen a screw top 3 piece.The 3 piece mold had already fallen out of favor by the time screw top became popular,though I suppose it is possible.

KAT

 

[medbottle]

Hello. I've seen this type of mold many times, most often on these shoe polish type bottles. I'm fairly certain its an early form of automatic bottling machine, but I don't know if it was Owens' patent or some other.

 

[Trying not to break it]

hi kat & med bottle,on the bottle 1st picture above, about 1" from the right sideis seam on bottle (very faint) on the neck, about 1/4" from the left is a seam. the seam does not go straight up the bottle plus the seam on top of shoulder. attached is a scan of another bottle, the same way. i tried to put an arrow where the seams are as they don't show up very clear, this bottle is embossed with the name williams on bottom. i hope this explains what i'm trying to ask about. thanks rhona

 

[Trying not to break it]

this is a scan of a 3" tall bottle i dug, the seam stops at the edge of the screw top, it does not go up threw the threads of the top like my other bottles. there appears to be a seam around the top of the neck where the threads begin. i appreciate all the help i can get thanks rhona

 

[bigkitty53]

Hi Rhona,
Medbottle is correct.Bottles with the off-set seam thru the lip are refered to as blown on an Owens machine(,whether they were or not![])Your screw top was blown on a different machine.(But not one I know the name of![]Anyone help Rhona out?)

KAT