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Do all six bottles have a similar flaw?
That's an applied crown, is it not?
That's an applied crown, is it not?
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yes all have a similer flaw ,this one is the worst,yes about 1890 ,1900 , i'm pretty sure there applied tops,mold seams go all the way to the top though.
cyberdigger
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Hmmm.. well if there's a mold seam ON the crown top, it's an early ABM.. perhaps something about the early machinery generated this defect during manufacture.. we need Red! [
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If they are tooled crowns, the snap case could leave a mark.
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Well I just found your thread. So here I go again. The seams on the crown finish were made by the neckring assembly which I just wrote out for cyberdigger.
There were no crown finishes that I have seen that were formed with a tool. If they were, there would be the rotary motion of the tool and no vertical seams.
Now then, myersdiggers1998. I think the marks on the side of your bottles were made with a tong tool used to pick them up. It is doubtful if this could happen on six bottles found together like you did. So I have to conclude that the marks are possibly welded repair in the mold cavity. Do they have any mold number marks on the bottoms of them? If there are then this could relate them to the welded repair.
For you beendiggin, I know of no snap cage that touched the finish. And if it did the skin of the finish would have been to cool to have been marked. The only thing that touched near the finish of some early hand made glass, was the tonged forks the bottle handlers used to set them into the annealing lehrs. Here also the glass was cool enough to not have been marked.
I will watch for the thread continuation for your comments. RED Matthews
There were no crown finishes that I have seen that were formed with a tool. If they were, there would be the rotary motion of the tool and no vertical seams.
Now then, myersdiggers1998. I think the marks on the side of your bottles were made with a tong tool used to pick them up. It is doubtful if this could happen on six bottles found together like you did. So I have to conclude that the marks are possibly welded repair in the mold cavity. Do they have any mold number marks on the bottoms of them? If there are then this could relate them to the welded repair.
For you beendiggin, I know of no snap cage that touched the finish. And if it did the skin of the finish would have been to cool to have been marked. The only thing that touched near the finish of some early hand made glass, was the tonged forks the bottle handlers used to set them into the annealing lehrs. Here also the glass was cool enough to not have been marked.
I will watch for the thread continuation for your comments. RED Matthews
beendiggin
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Thanks Red....How exactly did the snap case hold the bottle?
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