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    What is this thing?

    Can anyone identify this glass "thing" I found? It is part of something larger, and the two chunks I found connect at one point, and this is how I have photographed them. In the second picture you can see there were thin walls that have broken off.

    The only info I have is that it was dug at the glass factory site, which was only in operation between 1875 and 1880.

    Chris

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    RE: What is this thing?

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    RE: What is this thing?

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    RE: What is this thing?

    Hello Chris,

    Nice mystery piece, and well photographed. You didn't mention the sizes, nor the mystery glass house, and what products they might have made.

    I'm scratching my head, and wondering about mould warming, and possible footed base of maybe a battery jar, but those are mere supposings.

    Here's hoping there's about to be a "Bingo!" moment from another member, or failing that, a "Bongo!" moment. [8D]


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    RE: What is this thing?

    I vote for a "bongo" moment, definitely. Don't have any idea what the glass piece is but REALLY want to take up the drums...

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    Hello Chris,

    Nice mystery piece, and well photographed. You didn't mention the sizes, nor the mystery glass house, and what products they might have made.

    I'm scratching my head, and wondering about mould warming, and possible footed base of maybe a battery jar, but those are mere supposings.

    Here's hoping there's about to be a "Bingo!" moment from another member, or failing that, a "Bongo!" moment. [8D]


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    RE: What is this thing?

    Well dominionator; I saved the three pictures in my Glass Mysteries picture file. I can not conceive any explanation and the third picture doesn't seem to coordinate with the firs two. I am always looking for glass mysteries and mystery marks on the glass protucts that can tell me about how the glass item was made. Nice find - if you want to get rid of them - I would be interested. I would also like to know which glass house you think they came from.
    Thank you. RED Matthews

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    RE: What is this thing?

    The width of it is about 1 inch. I personally dug it with a pile of cullet at the site of the St. John's Glass Company in Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu Quebec Canada. They operated from 1875 to 1880 before moving to Montreal. Towards the end of their stay in Saint jean they became the Excelsior Glass Co. and had American owners. They were know to manufacture glass telegraph insulators, and I found several bottle tops in the cullet. I also found part of the bottom of a bottle with the embossing "& SODA" as well.

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    RE: What is this thing?

    Just a wag on my part but it looks like the sprue of a glass stopper, might have been part of a gamg mould?. See the attached link.

    https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-260503/mpage-1/key-glass%252Cstopper/tm.htm#260726

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    RE: What is this thing?

    Hey Chris,

    Here's a bit more on St. John's:

    "David Yuile (1846 – 1909) was a Canadian businessman. Yuile, along with his brother William, owned and operated various glass manufacturing companies through his life. He also served as the president of the Dominion Textile Company.

    David was born February 20, 1846 in Glasgow, Scotland. His parents, William Pollock Yuile and Margaret Rattray had one son and one daughter already. His father was a wine merchant, and around 1857 his family emigrated to Upper Canada, settling around Ingersoll. David attended school there, later moving with his family to Montreal in 1869, where William Yuile, the family's eldest son, became a general merchant. David was hired on by William in 1870. As the business continued to prosper, the brothers also began to act as manufacturer's agents and wholesale druggists. In 1875 they were hired to act as the manufacturer's agent for the newly formed St Johns Glass Company of Saint-Jean, which they acquired on June 1, 1878 to cover debts owed to them, after the company's losses had forced its closure.[1]

    Yuile married Margaret King in June 1878 in Montreal. The Yuile brothers set to work restoring the St Johns Glass Company of Saint-Jean to operation, and it resumed manufacturing in April 1879 under the name Excelsior Glass Company. Although the business did well, the location in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu was inconvenient, and the brothers sold the building and land in 1880, and moved the manufacturing equipment and workers to Montreal. Two glass furnaces were erected at the Montreal site, one for flint glass and one for green glass, and the company made prescription bottles, fruit jars, telegraph insulators, and some pressed glass pieces. The brothers also acquired the Foster Brothers Glass Works the same year, and moved its operations to their Montreal factory.[2] The company was reorganised in 1883 to finance further expansion and the hiring of expert European glass blowers. As part of the reorganisation, it was renamed the North American Glass Company. At this point, the company had a capital of $10,000..." wiki-Yuile.

    That part about, "The Yuile brothers set to work restoring the St Johns Glass Company of Saint-Jean to operation, and it resumed manufacturing in April 1879 under the name Excelsior Glass Company." makes me wonder if there had been an earlier fire, and when that works was begun.

    Every reference I've seen how, has different dates:

    St. Johns Glass Company
    St. Johns, Quebec, Canada (1875-1877)
    [McDougald-1990: Morgan Davis" From.

    Have you buckets of shards from this place? Those Yuile boys sound like a piratical lot.


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    RE: What is this thing?

    They were know to manufacture glass telegraph insulators,
    I was thinking of some home wiring insulator, I don't know why.[8|]
    Another thought was a base to something to keep the main piece from moving. Again, I don't know why.[:D][:D][:D]
    In other words, I'm clueless.



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