7up and yet another amber squat question

[Foxhound]

Hello folks, I’m a newbie here, but I have been collecting 7up for a few years now. I apologize if my particular question has been addressed, but I looked through and couldn’t find my current dilemma.

I recently purchased this amber squat on e bay. It is from Houston TX. And possibly once had a paper label? The chart I’ve seen here says that there were no paper labeled bottles produced in Houston TX , or am I reading the chart wrong? There is no â€X†in the paper label category . I think I may have stolen it for $25.99 in a buy now sale. The seller had a poor description of the bottle. They did mention the Houston 7up mark on the bottom, but they didn’t supply a pic of it. On the pics they did provide, I had to zoom hard to see what looked like embossing on the neck, and they failed to mention the embossing in their description. So at $25.99 Id thought Id take a chance.

This bottle shows no sign of ever having an ACL label on it, I have some in my collection where the ACL has faded completely, but there is still some sign of it once being there. The embossing doesn’t look any of the ACL’s I’ve seen, which doesn’t surprise me too much as I have many examples of embossing in my collection.

So, here it is. Were there paper labeled bottles from Houston Texas? Would someone took the time to polish off the ACL completely and fake old label remnants, they sure wouldn’t sell it for $25.99

And BTW, I am also the victim of the fake label on a beer bottle scam, I did this at a shop when I first started. It took me few days to figure it out. It was a cheap $40 lesson.

Thanks for you time and any information you can provide.

I present exhibit A.

 

[Foxhound]

more pics

 

[Foxhound]

more

 

[Foxhound]

the chart

 

[ncbred]

I have seen brown stubby's from Houston before with paper labels. Although there is a chart somewhere that says Houston stubby's didn't have paper labels.

 

[splante]

I bid on this 1936 lastnight but it went over my limit, good price for it. I emailed the seller b/4 bidding and he confirmed it had the 9<>6 on the bottom
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-7-Up-Bottle-Houston-Texas-ACL-Embossed-Amber-Color-/121077013062?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c30c09a46

 

[splante]

it has the embossed 7 up on the neck but your bottle seems so much darker

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Foxhound ~

Welcome to the forum.

Even though the chart does not indicate a paper label bottle from Houston, I highly suspect there were some made. The following link and picture are from a year ago (April 2012) and show a bottle similar to yours with no label but with Houston, Texas embossed on the base. I seriously doubt yours and the one pictured here are acls with the labels scraped off, but rather are missing their paper labels.

SPB

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/paper-lable-squat-bottle-non-acl-291518841

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~

I don't have a link or any bona fide information on the bottle pictured here other than the description claims its an amber 7up bottle from Houston, Texas with an original paper label ... ???

 

[Foxhound]

ncbred ~ I have seen them too, but their authenticity has always been in question

splante ~ I was watching that very auction. This bottle is thicker which accounts for the darker color, also its very heavy.

SODAPOPBOB ~ Thank you….and thanks for the feedback. I’m starting to believe there are some errors in that chart, in an earlier post here there was a discussion that the stubby’s from Houston were produced after the charted date, so it seems there are some discrepancies here

Your first example was providing repo labels. The repo labels are easy to spot. They lack the copyright and date that should be in the lower right hand corner. Something if they would have printed would be close to forgery. Also missing is the distributor. These little details could be easily added to the repo’s, so please no one use this as a hard fast rule as to what is real.

Your second example looks like a fake label, for one its just oversized and it lacks a distributor, and I would wager if we could see the other side it would lack the copyright and date.

Here are some paper labels from my collection which I believe to be genuine