Black glass bottle

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

I was wondering what year and what this black glass bottle might have held. It is 3” at the base. 3.5” at the shoulder. It looks like it was blown in a 3 pc mold. Crude applied lip. Sharp sand pontil on the base. Actually a dark olive green. Here are a bunch of pictures. Thank you for any replies and information. My guess is early 1800’s dip mold of some kind and held bitters or mineral water? What do you think?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[Roy]

I was wondering what year and what this black glass bottle might have held. It is 3” at the base. 3.5” at the shoulder. It looks like it was blown in a 3 pc mold. Crude applied lip. Sharp sand pontil on the base. Actually a dark olive green. Here are a bunch of pictures. Thank you for any replies and information. My guess is early 1800’s dip mold of some kind and held bitters or mineral water? What do you think?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

ROBBYBOBBY64
I think you are right on target... I don't know much about sand pontils but it's for sure some kind of pontil.
What a gorgeous bottle. I love the crudeness on the old bottles. Good one...
Roy

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

ROBBYBOBBY64
I think you are right on target... I don't know much about sand pontils but it's for sure some kind of pontil.
What a gorgeous bottle. I love the crudeness on the old bottles. Good one...
Roy

I agree. I love the old black glass. The pontil looks like chips of glass in a circle. I guessed it was a sand pontil. Didn’t they use frit or crushed glass too? Here are better pictures of the pontil.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[Roy]

I agree. I love the old black glass. The pontil looks like chips of glass in a circle. I guessed it was a sand pontil. Didn’t they use grit or crushed glass too? Here are better pictures of the pontil.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

I believe so.
In those days they probably used whatever they had handy if it worked. Roy

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

I believe so.
In those days they probably used whatever they had handy if it worked. Roy

Nothing went to waste.
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[DeepSeaDan]

She certainly is a beauty! And as Roy said, it appears your analysis is pretty spot on. Now here's another question: Is this a pontil as well? Your bottle's pontil is obvious, but I'm not so sure about this one, though the gall glass is pretty cool...

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

She certainly is a beauty! And as Roy said, it appears your analysis is pretty spot on. Now here's another question: Is this a pontil as well? Your bottle's pontil is obvious, but I'm not so sure about this one, though the gall glass is pretty cool...

I have some that are vague. You found that in the water. Maybe the sharpness tumbled off?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[DeepSeaDan]

I have some that are vague. You found that in the water. Maybe the sharpness tumbled off?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

That's certainly possible as it was likely in the water ( periodically fast water ) for many years; still, it doesn't look like a pontil to me as the edge is too finished, but I don't know what else it could be.

 

[Roy]

She certainly is a beauty! And as Roy said, it appears your analysis is pretty spot on. Now here's another question: Is this a pontil as well? Your bottle's pontil is obvious, but I'm not so sure about this one, though the gall glass is pretty cool...

DeepSeaDan,
Here's a thought, could it possibly be a sticky ball pontil? RED Matthew's talked about a sticky ball pontil somewhere on this forum. I believe they were pretty smooth. Maybe one of the pontil experts can chime in here... And yes that gall glass color is nice.... Roy

 

[moodorf]

https://www.antique-bottles.net/attachments/20221118_153149-jpg.241765/

I have a black glass bottle with a very similar base....never got a conclusive answer on the age here, nor could I really deduce it otherwise....