can you date this jar?

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I'm really new to all this and could use some help!

My grandpa passed away 10 years ago and we only recently got around to going through his mason jar collection. This one caught my eye and I've been trying to date it.

It very clearly reads:

MASON'S
PATENT
NOV 30TH
1858

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There are NO other markings on it besides a 41 on the base.

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The lip is not smooth at all, I'm not sure what the word for it is. There are two "seams" going evenly down both sides. There are also air bubbles in the glass and slight vertical striations that you can see and feel. It's a very light blue (teal?) in color.

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(Apologies if these pictures are huge. I tried to crop them. [:'(]
I read online that there are a lot of reproductions of this jar. Would there be any real way to tell when this was made and if it is a reproduction or not?
 

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Photo sizes are great, best to post this in the JAR section for the best help possible, good luck... Jim
 

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If the lip is not smooth, chances are it is a ground lip. The extra glass was ground off to leave a flat surface for the rubber seal. The colors of the reproductions that I have seen are like green and yellow, not the light blue/green like originals.
Keep digging around in Grandpas bottles. Someone here will know what's up.

Scott
 

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It looks like an earlier jar to me (pre 1900).

When you say you see some other "colors in the glass" that is usually a sign of an earlier jar.
the ground lip sounds like an earlier type of this jar. like someone else responded to you.

What part of the country are you in? New England?

There are lots of these type jars out there. from 1860-present

That being said without holding it its hard to tell.
 

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I'm in Pennsylvania.

I've read as much as I could find online and believe it was made somewhere in the 1850s to 1880s. I get the impression that it's pretty common but I will look for more soon.

Thanks for all the help!
 

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