DATING ACL SODA BOTTLES ... (PART I)

[SODAPOPBOB]

Final note: Please be sure to watch the glass making video that can be found by clicking on the last one of the two blue links that say "Here." I think you will find it both modern and facinating.

Thanks,

SPBOB

 

[Oklabottles]

I have a few questions, I have a 1966 O-So beverage with the old mark, and what about anchor hocking, heres a dodger acl bottle produced by anchor hocking, also I have a acl pepsi and its mark is like this 9 <(I)> 12 i no its not 1912 so why a 12, I didnt relize how many different glass companys made the bottles I have, out of the bottles I could find makers marks on I found 32 different manufactures marks on bottles from squat blob tops from the 1870's to acls from the 70's the manufactures are as follows (C) chattanooga glass Co. chattanooga, Tenn. 1927-present, L-G,LG,L.G. liberty glass company Supulpa, Okla. 1924-54, McC William McCully Pittsburg 1841-1909, IGCO illinois Glass Co. Alton illinois 1873-1929, KGB CO Kearns Gorsuch bottle Co. Zanesville Ohio 1886-1937, A Agnew and Co. Pitburg, PA. 1854-1894, A.B.CO American bottle co. chicago illinois 1905-1929, J in keystone Knox glass bottle co. jackson, ms 1932-53, W.T. CO Whitall Tatum Co. millville NJ 1901-38, C & CO cunningham Pittsburg, PA. 1879-1907, NBBG CO northern baltimore bottle glass co. north baltimore, OH 1888-1895, DOC Dominick Cunningham Pittsburg, PA 1882-1931, OD Old dominion Glass Co. Alexandria VA. 1901-1925, OB CO Ohio Bottle Co. Newark, Ohio 1904-1905, O-N Obear-Nester Glass Co east st. louis, IL 1894-1980, R.G. CO Root Glass co. Terre Haute, IN 1901-1909 & ROOT 1909-1932, S.B. & G CO. Streater Glass Co. Streater IL 1881-1905, SG scrantont glass scranton, PA. 1881-1895, three rivers 3 rivers glass company texas 1922-1937, SIGW- southern illinois glass works loogootee, IN 1904-1912, and W.F.&S.-mil william franzen and sons milwaukee, WI 1900-1929 thats alot of different companys it looks like a bunch of them eventually became part of the Owens illinios company.

 

[splante]

hey havent forgot to keep you updated, have not been able to get out for over a month and i am itching to get in the canoe and hit that spot, hopefully this coming weekend,will get out hunting and digging and will take lots of pictures. Between work and a DIF, I have had no time .
another area I came across is also along a river there are some houses set up about 50 yards from the river. The cool thing is that there is a enbankment from the back property line to the river. Looks like they may have just thrown the trash down the embankment years ago found some shards after just a few minutes of light digging.
THE HOUSES ARE FROM THE 1760"s cant wait to explore this area.

 

[druggistnut]

Hey Bob,
Just went through your "dating ACL sodas," again. I enjoyed it both times and had something I wanted to yak with you about- Duraglas.
Did I ever contact you on here about O-I and Duraglas?
Bill

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

ORIGINAL: druggistnut

Hey Bob,
Just went through your "dating ACL sodas," again. I enjoyed it both times and had something I wanted to yak with you about- Duraglas.
Did I ever contact you on here about O-I and Duraglas?
Bill

DN ~

If you did contact me or post a reply on this thread, I don't recall it. As for inquiry, Duraglas was first used by Owens-Illinois around 1940.

Bob

Here's an example of a double-digit 48 for 1948

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

DN ~

As a side note involving Duraglas, scroll to the category "Stippling or Knurling" on the following website ...

http://www.sha.org/bottle/bases.htm#Machine-made

... where you will find

It is not precisely certain when this feature first originated although it likely first appeared in 1940 on bottles produced by the Owens-Illinois Glass Company when they began using their proprietary "Duraglas" bottle making process (Toulouse 1971). Both of the pictured bottle bases note such with the script Duraglas on the base. This likely terminus post quem is supported by date codes noted by the author and others on bottles made by that company (Lockhart 2004d; empirical observations). So if one has a machine-made bottle with a stippled base one can be quite certain that it dates from 1940 or later.

(As a side note, the Duraglas in script like in the images dates the bottle from between 1940 and 1963. Duraglas in block letters dates after 1963 to some point that the company dispensed with it altogether - probably in the 1970s (Toulouse 1971; empirical observations). This inscription is only seen on Owens-Illinois Glass Co. Products.)

 

[druggistnut]

Bob,
What I wanted to tell you- There was no merger between O-I and Duraglas. Duraglas was not a company. It was a patented coating that O-I sprayed on their bottles, to make the surface more durable and to help sustain less damage in the plant, etc...
Any bottle that has the Duraglas moniker on it had that coating.
Look it up under patents.
Bill