Did I just find what I think I found......... At the Goodwill?

Fishnemesis

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Can any one confirm for me that this is what I think it is? I was at the Goodwill this morning looking for a picture frame and saw this sitting on a shelf. I am still realatively new to the hobby, but this looks to me like a Black Glass Wine Bottle. There are no apparent seams so I think it is free blown. I also don't see a pontil mark on the bottom. If anyone can let me know if my suspicions are correct and give me an age range on it I would appreciate it.
 

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bottles_inc

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I would say liquor bottle, not wine. Wine bottles have a pretty distinctive look. This looks like rum or whiskey or some other hard liquor to me
 

willong

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Can any one confirm for me that this is what I think it is? I was at the Goodwill this morning looking for a picture frame and saw this sitting on a shelf. I am still realatively new to the hobby, but this looks to me like a Black Glass Wine Bottle. There are no apparent seams so I think it is free blown. I also don't see a pontil mark on the bottom. If anyone can let me know if my suspicions are correct and give me an age range on it I would appreciate it.

I would caution you against getting too excited. It's a nice bottle; and I am personally fond of black glass. However, it is neither free-blown nor vary rare in my opinion. It was most likely turn molded: blown in a mold and then rotated in that mold to erase the seam marks. Is the lip applied, or just tooled? (To me, it looks applied in one of your photos, but the shot is not large enough or clear enough for me to say for sure. You can feel inside with your pinky finger to determine if there is a junction, ledge, lap or etc.)
 

treeguyfred

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It is a nice one... Almost certainly of English or Irish manufacture. I clearly see the gloppy glass of an applied lip finish. that plus the uneven bottom and shoulder indicates fairly early manufacture 1850's -1870's possibly a dip mold, the last photo shows bumpy glass not the high gloss of a turn mold, and no concentric lines that is seen in turn molds that early.
I expect that you didn't pay much at all at a Goodwill store ;)
 

Harry Pristis

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English bottle that held Ale or Stout with a refired pontil and dates around 1860

"Re-fired pontil" is a collector myth.
Thought exercise: When in the bottle-making process -- the steps in producing the bottle, from gather to annealing -- could a pontil scar be re-fired??
 

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