EARLIEST "CROWN TOP" SODA BOTTLES 1892 - 1900

[web44ca]

Here is an early crown top beer bottle ... applied crown ... the bottom has what some call a bare iron pontil mark ... & the bottom style also indicates a date earlier than the late 1890's ... comments anyone.

 

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That is NOT any kind of pontil but the bottle appears early...

 

[cowseatmaize]

As Jim said it's not a pontil base. Crown tops were long after that era and into the early machine age and beyond. Yours I would guess 1905-20 but could be a bit later depending on where it was manufactured. That has yet to be determined.

 

[surfaceone]

Hey Ron,

Long time no see, not even a card... I agree that is not pontiled.

Knowing of your figural expertise, I gotta ask you to take a look at this thread: https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/%22Noble-Catcher%22-Is-this-a-Cyrus-Noble-Whiskey-Bottle%3F/m-494423/tm.htm

I'd be interested to learn your thoughts.

 

[web44ca]

My reference to a pontil mark comes from Munsey's book ... am quite aware of the evolution of the glass bottle & the time period of the crown top ... but have always been puzzled by Cecil Munsey's photo & description.

 

[epackage]

Here is a nice 1900 crown, coolest part for me is the compnay was making hutch's at the same time and for at least another 5 years after this one.....

 

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Here's how I know it was for 5 more years...

 

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ORIGINAL: web44ca

My reference to a pontil mark comes from Munsey's book ... am quite aware of the evolution of the glass bottle & the time period of the crown top ... but have always been puzzled by Cecil Munsey's photo & description.

While this may look similar to you they are not nearly them same....but I love the color of your crown, it's not too dark...

 

[Wheelah23]

The "iron pontil" mark is easily identifiable by the rusty iron residue left on the bottom of the bottle. Your crown doesn't have that, although Munsey's picture makes it easy to see where you went wrong. It's probably 1900-1910, and definitely made in Europe, whose glass manufacturing techniques lagged behind ours for a decade or two.

 

[web44ca]

Appreciate your comments especially that it may have been produced in Europe ... my crown top beer has been ID. as being used by A. Keiths brewery in Halifax Nova Scotia ... during recent construction at the brewery site... shards & whole bottles have been found identiical to mine.

Here is a 1860's 3-piece mold liquor with what might be the bare iron pontil mark ???