Eastern vs Western, Whiskey Stars

[appliedlips]

Those are nice and very different from the Star marked mid western examples. The Ohio ones will have an N in a star or a N next to it. The New Albany,Ind.. ones will have a single raised star but looks nothing like yours. I would say those three are definitely Western and very nice.. I have never dug one or a shard of one anywhere in the Midwest..

 

[westernbittersnut]

This is an interesting subject to me. I have seen two large Hostetter's Stomach Bitters bottles in a medium dark emerald green color with the star pattern shown in the middle bottle example.

There's been discussion as to whether any Hostetter's bottles were made in the West. A disagreement in opinions on this matter still exists between advanced collectors on this subject.

On the base embossed Pacific Glass Works SF bottles, I don't believe any have a star pattern embossing in the center. This would certainly go a long way in substantiating this particular pattern as to a western glassworks. It may very well be a product from PGW or SFGW, but proving it without a doubt may be impossible.

 

[tigue710]

the star on the Hostsetter's is slightly smaller I remember from the example I saw, which was a dark olive emerald green, close to the bright vibrant Stoddard color...

Discussions I followed had atributed the bottle to a Philidelphia glass house...

I was hoping this thread might produce a picture of one...

 

[westernbittersnut]

Yes, it is slightly smaller, I studied them for awhile, but never took a picture, unfortunately. A lot of us out West feel that all Hostetter's bottles were blown back East. The bottle example to the far right has the star pattern that is seen on a early made bottle containing western bitters product, but that is the only example that I know of, and that bottle has a European look, and is a product of a Swiss physician, marketed by a couple of early liquor merchants in California.

 

[caldigs]

Referring to the Pacific Glass Works extracted from an 1867 article:

There is no mention of whiskey bottles in this 1867 article, but whiskey bottles embossed "Pacific Glass Works SF" do exist. Maybe PGW stopped producing whiskey bottles by 1867. Also, what if San Francsico Glass Works began making whiskey bottles in 1865 and used the star to differentiate their bottles from PGW bottles ?????

 

[tigue710]

the wine and brandy bottles would be the whiskey bottles. The actually did not reffer to what we call Whiskey's bottles back then as whiskeys, but as Wines. The same with all the eastern glass houses, all the Patent and base embossed bottles such as Doyttville, Willington and others were reffered to as Wine bottles by the manufactures...

It would seem though they were very often used for whiskey, which makes it all a little strange, but the idea originally was to capture the market of wine producers buying Eourpean bottles... while much wine was bottled in our Coveted Whiskeys they eventually were used more for what we call them, although the manufactures still reffered to them as Wines...

 

[Shagnasty]

here is a pic or 2 of my Newark star glassworks whiskey

 

[Shagnasty]

we dug this one here in Newark it ended up in a privy one street over from where it was made ya hear about bottles from small towns ending up across the country and ya wonder how or why it ended up where it was this bottle could have been thrown by a glass worker to its final destination[]

 

[capsoda]

I have seen two large Hostetter's Stomach Bitters bottles in a medium dark emerald green color with the star pattern shown in the middle bottle example.

Ive had one of those but it was a light olive green. I've also had and probably still do have several whiskys dug locally with the stars. I dug this case gin several years back. Pensacola, FL has been a military town since the first Spanish Fort in the late 1500s so alcoholic beverages are something we dig alot of. Hostetters are through backs around here. Only thing is there has never been a glass house around here so everything cane from some where else.

 

[capsoda]

I also think I have a Wolf's around here with the middle example on it. I was told by a bud that they were export bottles to Australia but I don't know for sure.