Ft Jackson La. Olive Green Wine

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This olive green wine was dug at Ft Jackson La. which was built 1822-1832 to protect the lower river/New Orleans and fell during a civil war battle in 1862. Used as a training facility in 1890s and early 1900s. The bottle has a high kick up bottom and very crude top. Since there is not a single marking on it, I wanted to see if anyone had an idea of its approx age.
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Seems like they made Bottles like that for 100 Years, like ranging from 1850's to 1950's. But, that one does have a sloppy laid on ring top making it older but how old I don't know, guessing maybe pre 1900 but I'm no wine bottle expert. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on this type of bottle will chime in? LEON.
 

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Seems like they made Bottles like that for 100 Years, like ranging from 1850's to 1950's. But, that one does have a sloppy laid on ring top making it older but how old I don't know, guessing maybe pre 1900 but I'm no wine bottle expert. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on this type of bottle will chime in? LEON.
Thank you Leon.
 

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Off topic but the date on this John Ryan. Is 1859 the patent date like mason jars or the year it was made?
 

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Off topic but the date on this John Ryan. Is 1859 the patent date like mason jars or the year it was made?
A good picture of the bottom would probably help you out here. Roy
 

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Here is the bottom.
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I think once they put a date in a mold that mold will get used over & over again for many Years with out changing the Date in Mold. LEON.

P.S. Bottom doesn't look like a open pontil or iron pontil, but i don't know anything about all those other pontiles people mention like sand? polished? ect., ect.
 

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I think once they put a date in a mold that mold will get used over & over again for many Years with out changing the Date in Mold. LEON.

P.S. Bottom doesn't look like an open pontil or iron pontil, but i don't know anything about all those other pontiles people mention like sand? polished? ect., ect.
Makes since, thanks again
Brian
 
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Here is the bottom.
Brian
Hi Bannon
I'm no expert but my guess is your bottle just missed the pontil or even possibly that is a sticky ball pontil. No matter what, it's a nice bottle, and I would suspect it was made in the early 1860s.

Anyone is welcome to correct me here if they disagree. Roy
 

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