GlassWorks Auction #148

ROBBYBOBBY64

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They just had some great super rare Tiffany & Allen bottles. One was a cobalt blue spruce beer. Half the bottom was missing. Real clean break. Went for $28 dollars. Then there was a beautiful orange amber blobtop. Embossed on back "DO NOT STEAL THIS BOTTLE". That one sold for $350.88. Don't see these too much.
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treeguyfred

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Then there was a beautiful orange amber blobtop. Embossed on back "DO NOT STEAL THIS BOTTLE"
I have an example of the amber Paterson Tiffany & Allen "do not steal this bottle"
Paterson had some amazing bottles in the day. Tom Leavey "Silk City Tom" had for decades the most comprehensive Paterson collection. I saw so many outrageous bottles He has sold off part of his stunning collection to another ambitious collector Jim E.
My paltry collection pales in comparison (doesn't even appear as blip on radar)
~Fred
 

ROBBYBOBBY64

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I have an example of the amber Paterson Tiffany & Allen "do not steal this bottle"
Paterson had some amazing bottles in the day. Tom Leavey "Silk City Tom" had for decades the most comprehensive Paterson collection. I saw so many outrageous bottles He has sold off part of his stunning collection to another ambitious collector Jim E.
My paltry collection pales in comparison (doesn't even appear as blip on radar)
~Fred
That's a sweet bottle I have been looking for, that and the spruce beer. Never heard of Tom Leavey. Lot of collections get sold off. I always find that kind of grim. Never the whole collection. It's like taking the house your father built and selling it piece by piece. Can be stressful I guess. Especially when they sell off because they need the money.
ROBBYBOBBY64.
 

American

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Any comments, interests, etc. on the latest GlassWorks auction?
I hate the 20% winning fee that is tacked on to your bill, but they have to make money.
I have in the past won some pretty good deals, the best one, won a figural bitters true puce bottle. Everyone was bidding on the same figural bitters in red, so I just concentrated on the puce one and got it for a very good price. Years later, sold it for over 300% more than I paid for it.
It seems like they are auctioning off more bottles with damage these days. Am I right or is my senior memory getting the best of me?
I guess when have you so many good looking bottles up for sale, you just sort of have a hard time resisting not bidding(there goes my retirement $.)
So, are there any bottles that anyone likes or just have to have?
opmustard
Besides the 20% I think they add too much to the "handling" part of the shipping. I have paid $50 plus for shipping before.
I have noticed they have become a little casual about attribution on the last couple auctions. Attributing a chestnut flask to Wistarburg (which they spelled wrong repeatedly) with no disclaimer, such as, "this type of bottle was certainly blown at Wistarburg". Instead they flat out say it was blown at Wistarburg. If you read the books of our glass scholars from the previous generation, they all say that it is almost impossible to attribute any glass confidently to Wistarburg because most of it was unmarked. There are a few bottles with seals that can securely be attributed, but beyond that, it's all conjecture. The other attribution made in this last auction was the very first bottle they listed, which was attributed to Pitkin, again, with no disclaimer. The flask is a "Pitkin TYPE", which were made at several New England glass houses. In fact, no shards of a Pitkin Type flask were ever found at the Pitkin factory site, although it is generally accepted that Pitkin type flasks were certainly blown there.
 

April

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Any comments, interests, etc. on the latest GlassWorks auction?
I hate the 20% winning fee that is tacked on to your bill, but they have to make money.
I have in the past won some pretty good deals, the best one, won a figural bitters true puce bottle. Everyone was bidding on the same figural bitters in red, so I just concentrated on the puce one and got it for a very good price. Years later, sold it for over 300% more than I paid for it.
It seems like they are auctioning off more bottles with damage these days. Am I right or is my senior memory getting the best of me?
I guess when have you so many good looking bottles up for sale, you just sort of have a hard time resisting not bidding(there goes my retirement $.)
So, are there any bottles that anyone likes or just have to have?
opmustard
I have several bottles I found in the woods all around my house and I'm wanting to sell them they are all pretty cool some are old whisky bottles with the embossed lettering and a couple of the first and second and I think even third glass Gatorade bottles I've got a super cool big glass bottle I think it was a Coca-Cola one I say I think because when I first found those they are in the woods across the street from my house and some were Coca-Cola and the other one looked like a grape soda idk but so I just don't remember which one I've got but I also have some really nice green glass Coca-Cola bottles like the smaller drinking ones they all range in size from this little cute one to I think 2 big tall ones and I've got a old base ball yoo hoo bottle and a old Dr pepper some dietick drink bottle and there's so much more I even found some smaller perfume and cologne bottles and I even found a really small brown bottle from polo Ralf Lauren I looked it up it was a aftershave I found that in my yard one day when I had to dig deep to plant this big cactus my neighbor gave me one of the bottles said something like it was illegal to own or something it looked like a old whisky bottle
 

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April

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Any comments, interests, etc. on the latest GlassWorks auction?
I hate the 20% winning fee that is tacked on to your bill, but they have to make money.
I have in the past won some pretty good deals, the best one, won a figural bitters true puce bottle. Everyone was bidding on the same figural bitters in red, so I just concentrated on the puce one and got it for a very good price. Years later, sold it for over 300% more than I paid for it.
It seems like they are auctioning off more bottles with damage these days. Am I right or is my senior memory getting the best of me?
I guess when have you so many good looking bottles up for sale, you just sort of have a hard time resisting not bidding(there goes my retirement $.)
So, are there any bottles that anyone likes or just have to have?
opmustard
 

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American

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That is very interesting formula you've come up with, very impressive.
I agree that the auction houses are stuck in the middle and that not every collectors collection has only mint bottles (I don't.)
However, back in the day, I send a group of bottles to an auction house and three were rejected for minor defects. I asked if the bottles were not auction worthy, the answer was no they were, but they had minor defects and weren't up to they're standards at that time.
Personally, I think that whatever the auction standards are fine with me. I just seem to notice that more bottles with defects are going up for sale. If someone wants to bid on these bottles, o.k. nothing wrong with that. I am bidding on a bottle right now that has a minor defect because of its rarity and I just want it for my collection.
opmustard
I think bottles with replaced tops may be crossing the line.
 

nhpharm

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Glassworks runs far more volume than Heckler, AGG, or ABA and is thus willing to take more items with some damage. The auction houses all want to keep unhappy buyers and returns to a minimum, and the more damage there is, even if described, increases the likelihood of issues. With respect to the buyer's premium, you just have to factor that in. Remember that the auctioneer is also cutting a percentage off the top of what the seller gets, so it's not just the buyer paying a percentage. Also, with Glassworks, the buyer's premium is only 17% if you pay with check or money order...
 

sandchip

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I hate the fees so I just try to find people to deal with directly

That would be nice, but not always possible if you want to add certain bottles to your collection. A fellow just up the road that I knew for over 40 years had a killer collection, but there was no buying stuff from him. He died of CJD a few years back and his widow after a while consigned his collection to GWA. Sometimes, it's the only way to get a bottle. And I know the buyer and seller fees are a pain, but the folks running these auction houses have to make a living, too, not to mention the expenses of running a business, which are far more numerous than many folks realize, and getting more expensive every day. Just a different perspective from one who has been self-employed for well over 40 years.
 

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