Help identify this bottle

[Grams]

I’m not sure if this bottle is pre-or post 1900 but it belonged to my grandparents who died in the 30’s! Any help identifying would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Sitcoms]

Almost certainly some kind of liquor. Hard to tell the exact age - can you take pictures of the neck/seam? if the seam goes all the way through the lip it's likely post-1915.

 

[CanadianBottles]

A clearer picture of the base would help as well. From what I can see it looks like it's not machine-made so probably not machine-made. Is the inside of the lip rough-textured the way the base of the stopper is? That stopper is interesting, I've never seen one like that on a bottle like this so I'm not sure they originally went together. It looks to me like the stopper to a smelling salts bottle.

 

[Grams]

Almost certainly some kind of liquor. Hard to tell the exact age - can you take pictures of the neck/seam? if the seam goes all the way through the lip it's likely post-1915.

There is not a seam.

 

[Grams]

The stopper and the bottle both have the same paint and patina so I would imagine they came together. The inside of the neck is smooth.

 

[Skoda]

Looks like a turn-mold wine/champagne to me, those tight concentric rings in the glass and no seam are a giveaway. Turn-mold bottles were often made in the old world and imported into the US, usually circa 1880's-1920's but they could be older or slightly newer- they have quite the range. Some were made in the US but they are far less often seen and difficult to identify as such unless they're labeled. The stopper was almost certainly not sold with the bottle originally unless the inside of the neck is ground down to fit it, which is something I've never personally seen before on a general purpose champagne bottle of that era. That stopper is old, so I would assume it was paired and painted with the bottle early on by a consumer. I agree with CanadianBottles as it looks like it went on a smelling salts bottle, or perhaps a fancy perfume.

Here's a nice breakdown on turn-mold bottles: https://sha.org/bottle/body.htm#Turn molds

Hope this helps!

 

[Skoda]

Just saw your pics, I was too busy posting that block of text to notice, haha! That stopper is interesting and there is a possibility I didn't think of, being that it originally had a cork lining that allowed it to fit snug in the lip. I've seen that on newer bottles but not on anything that old personally, perhaps someone else would have more input there?

 

[willong]

Just saw your pics, I was too busy posting that block of text to notice, haha! That stopper is interesting and there is a possibility I didn't think of, being that it originally had a cork lining that allowed it to fit snug in the lip. I've seen that on newer bottles but not on anything that old personally, perhaps someone else would have more input there?

I'm pretty sure that stopper was not made to accommodate a shell cork; there would be no reason for the ground finish. Glass and porcelain stoppers that were paired with shell corks had barely tapered shanks that were usually proportionally smaller in diameter compared to the bottle opening than that of the item shown (think of the common Lea & Perrins stoppers that paired with shell corks as closure of those Worcestershire Sauce bottles).

Looking at the bottle finish itself, I'm persuaded that the bottle and ground-glass stopper are original to each other. The abrupt flattening of the upper surface of the bottle lip, whose diameter closely matches that of the stopper, the frosted appearance of the neck interior with a slight ledge that looks to me like it was formed by grinding the glass with an abrasive tool rather than smoothy wiped by a finishing tool are features that lead me in that direction.

Of course, that does not further the discussion of specific age or original contents or purpose of the container ! Me thinks someone will need to find a labeled example or a vintage illustration in patent application drawings or period advertisements to put those questions to rest.

My (relatively wild) guess: a souvenir item from a turn of the century trip to Europe or one of the popular expositions of the same era.

 

[CanadianBottles]

I agree, it looks like the two go together. Maybe some sort of fancy toilet water-type thing? It looks like there's a monogram on the stopper but I can't make it out, could you post a clearer photo of that?

 

[Grams]

Here’s a better photo of the monogram, I’m also including a link with an article about my grandfather Herman Frank’s brewery. The bottle was originally his!

Wort's Going On Here?: Frank Home Brewery - Bellville Texas - 1870-1918

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