jdogrulz
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This is supposed to be THE "first manufacturer of Eau de Cologne". The info I have been able to come up with says even in 1840 there were knockoffs. One article refers to "Julich's Place" as the true, real deal place for the original. This bottle says "Place Juliers N24 / COLOGNE". I think Juliers was used in other countries like USA because of the german "u" in "Jülichs-Platz" and Platz meaning place.
Here is the full article from "The Ladies' repository: Volume 12 - Page 326 1852" :
AMONG the many amusing incidents of travel we scarcely know of one calculated for the time to make a greater
impression on the ladies of a party than that connected with the search after genuine Cologne water, in the famous
old town of the same name on the Rhine. Indeed, one scarcely stops at Cologne for any other purpose than to see the
great unfinished Gothic Cathedral, and enjoy the opportunity of procuring a stock of genuine Cologne water obtained
on the very spot where it acquires its name. But just here, of all places in the world, one is put to his wits' end to know the genuine from the false. There are a round dozen firms, all claiming to be the original Simon Pures, and the first distillers of the odoriferous liquid. Now, when one goes to Cologne to obtain the genuine article it is quite provoking to be unable to decide among a dozen manufacturers and rivals. But this dilemma commences as the traveler alights from the cars and goes to his carriage. The runners for the Cologne water-dealers are all mixed up with the Jehus, and all hands vociferously shout that each one of them is alone the man who will take you to the "original Jacob." To get out of this perplexity, the traveler generally goes to his hotel and sits down to consult his guide regarding this serious question, and even perhaps advises confidentially with "mine host." But all this only makes matters worse, for every Boniface in the town is pledged to the interest of some special dealer, and gets a per cent on all the sales made through him; and as to the guide, it gives the firm name and address of no less than about thirty rivals for public attention, all claiming to be sprung from the original Jean Marie Farina.
The long list of business firms in the directory engaged in this business awakes our curiosity; if we read them carefully through we shall gain the following interesting information:
Firstly, there are two firms that claim to be the "original house," and ratify this claim by presentmg the diploma of the Royal Chamber of Commerce. Secondly, there are seven firms that announce themselves as the oldest distillers of the essence of cologne in the town. Thirdly there are twenty-one firms that bear, in some way, the name of Jean Marie Farina, the original maker. This name may be used as a mere addition to another name, or it may be the name of persons to whom it has been purposely given in their infancy, that it could be sold and used as silent partners in a business on becoming of adult age. Thirteen establishments announce themselves as opposite to original manufacturers, or as being on the same square with them; this affords them an opportunity to use the charmed name of Jean Marie Farina in their circulars or advertisements. The dealer making the most valid claim to be the genuine original is on the square known as the "Julich's Place;" and two others have been fortunate enough to secure quarters there, and send out their circulars with this heading. Now the stimulus to this intense rivalry is evidently the money to be made out of the sale of genuine Cologne for transportation, and the large sale over the counter to the stream of transient travelers that visit the old city at all times of the year. But the question as to the original maker of this charmed essence is by no means to be settled on the ground, though one might give a month to the study of the complicated subject. The more one investigates it, the less one knows. Even their very signs over their store-doors are a study,—one is Franz Marie Farina, another Johann Anton Farina, and the original manufacturer, according to his own account, is Johann Marie Farina, on the "Julich's Place." This gentleman claims on his sign to be purveyor to the Emperors of Germany, Austria, and Russia, the Queen of England, and ten other monarchs. Another Johann Marie Farina, right alongside of him, declares himself to be patented court dealer to his Majesty Napoleon III, Emperor of France,—he still keeps up this title,—and also supplies the Emperors of Brazil and Japan. We need scarcely say that he who succeeds in getting the wheat out of this chaff is a lucky individual.
This bottle is Pontiled so it is pretty early but is it THE REAL "Eau de Cologne"??????? OR is it an early dastardly knockoff???? That is the question
Either way I think I going to call this one a rare one unless one of you can let me know different.
Thanks,
Jeff
Here is the full article from "The Ladies' repository: Volume 12 - Page 326 1852" :
AMONG the many amusing incidents of travel we scarcely know of one calculated for the time to make a greater
impression on the ladies of a party than that connected with the search after genuine Cologne water, in the famous
old town of the same name on the Rhine. Indeed, one scarcely stops at Cologne for any other purpose than to see the
great unfinished Gothic Cathedral, and enjoy the opportunity of procuring a stock of genuine Cologne water obtained
on the very spot where it acquires its name. But just here, of all places in the world, one is put to his wits' end to know the genuine from the false. There are a round dozen firms, all claiming to be the original Simon Pures, and the first distillers of the odoriferous liquid. Now, when one goes to Cologne to obtain the genuine article it is quite provoking to be unable to decide among a dozen manufacturers and rivals. But this dilemma commences as the traveler alights from the cars and goes to his carriage. The runners for the Cologne water-dealers are all mixed up with the Jehus, and all hands vociferously shout that each one of them is alone the man who will take you to the "original Jacob." To get out of this perplexity, the traveler generally goes to his hotel and sits down to consult his guide regarding this serious question, and even perhaps advises confidentially with "mine host." But all this only makes matters worse, for every Boniface in the town is pledged to the interest of some special dealer, and gets a per cent on all the sales made through him; and as to the guide, it gives the firm name and address of no less than about thirty rivals for public attention, all claiming to be sprung from the original Jean Marie Farina.
The long list of business firms in the directory engaged in this business awakes our curiosity; if we read them carefully through we shall gain the following interesting information:
Firstly, there are two firms that claim to be the "original house," and ratify this claim by presentmg the diploma of the Royal Chamber of Commerce. Secondly, there are seven firms that announce themselves as the oldest distillers of the essence of cologne in the town. Thirdly there are twenty-one firms that bear, in some way, the name of Jean Marie Farina, the original maker. This name may be used as a mere addition to another name, or it may be the name of persons to whom it has been purposely given in their infancy, that it could be sold and used as silent partners in a business on becoming of adult age. Thirteen establishments announce themselves as opposite to original manufacturers, or as being on the same square with them; this affords them an opportunity to use the charmed name of Jean Marie Farina in their circulars or advertisements. The dealer making the most valid claim to be the genuine original is on the square known as the "Julich's Place;" and two others have been fortunate enough to secure quarters there, and send out their circulars with this heading. Now the stimulus to this intense rivalry is evidently the money to be made out of the sale of genuine Cologne for transportation, and the large sale over the counter to the stream of transient travelers that visit the old city at all times of the year. But the question as to the original maker of this charmed essence is by no means to be settled on the ground, though one might give a month to the study of the complicated subject. The more one investigates it, the less one knows. Even their very signs over their store-doors are a study,—one is Franz Marie Farina, another Johann Anton Farina, and the original manufacturer, according to his own account, is Johann Marie Farina, on the "Julich's Place." This gentleman claims on his sign to be purveyor to the Emperors of Germany, Austria, and Russia, the Queen of England, and ten other monarchs. Another Johann Marie Farina, right alongside of him, declares himself to be patented court dealer to his Majesty Napoleon III, Emperor of France,—he still keeps up this title,—and also supplies the Emperors of Brazil and Japan. We need scarcely say that he who succeeds in getting the wheat out of this chaff is a lucky individual.
This bottle is Pontiled so it is pretty early but is it THE REAL "Eau de Cologne"??????? OR is it an early dastardly knockoff???? That is the question
Either way I think I going to call this one a rare one unless one of you can let me know different.
Thanks,
Jeff
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