junk shop find

[iahmichel]

Hi there I just picked these 2 bottles from a junk shop today and would like some more information, I've already done a web search and found that the smaller bottle is made by E Breffit & Co Ld, it measures 34cms high and has seams going up to just under the bottle top,it also has a small indentation to form a pouring lip. the base contains the lettering E B & Co Ld 2965 from my web search i found that this type would be used for salad oil, is this right?

The second one is made by Cannington Shaw & Co Ld this measures 37cms high and again the seam goes up to just under the bottle top, the lettering on the base is C S & Co Ld, can you tell me what the contents of this would have been,also i would love to know rough dates for these and if they have any value, i solely bought them for their beauty as they are in excellent condition, but i assumed they were from the 1950's, I'd love to hear your feedback.
many thanks
iah

 

[epackage]

Welcome to the forum, larger pics please... If you have trouble email me the pics and I'll post them... Jim epackage@msn.com

 

[epackage]

They look like they could be modern pieces from home decoration stores like Pier 1 Imports to me...
But maybe someone else knows better and they are older peppersauce bottles... Jim

 

[epackage]

Cannington Shaw Glass Works
The towns (St Helens) pre-eminence as a glass making centre was further emphasised by the rapid development of local bottle making. This branch of the industry started to expand rapidly about 1870 and in the following 30 years the three firms at St Helens made great progress. By 1889 Cannington, Shaw and Company were employing 870 people at their Sherdley Glass Works, Nuttall and Co. at Ravenhead, 450, and Lyon Brothers of the Peasley Glass Works about 200. Lyon Brothers became a limited company in 1886 with a share capital of £60,000. They attempted to reduce the wages in the following year by introducing foreign workmen whom they brought over specially from Sweden. The arrival of the Swedes was the signal for a strike of the local bottle makers and within a fortnight the foreign contingent was on its way home again, its repatriation having been financed by the bottle makers union. Lyon Brothers Ltd showed a loss of £200 on this year’s working and the deficit grew to £2,600 in 1888. In October, 1890, the Lyons finally admitted defeat and went out of business, their Peasley Glass works being purchased by Cannington, Shaw and Company. In 1892, when Cannington, Shaw acquired limited liability with a share capital of £250,000. They were employing 1,188 men and women, it was described later in the same year as the largest works of its kind in the world.

Although bottle making machinery had already by the end of the 1880′s reached the stage when it could be used commercially, the Lancashire bottle makers resolutely refused to countenance it’s introduction into their district. When in 1897 Cannington, Shaw and Co finally decided to install machinery at Sherdley, the union at first forbad its members to work in the factory. But it was a little late in the day for such demonstrations. Negotiations followed, and three months afterwards the union agreed to the introduction of bottle making machines “so long as they are not injurious to us as workmenâ€. This new machinery caused the proprietor of a local engineering firm to enter the bottle industry. John Foster, who had served his apprenticeship at Robinson and Cook’s and had been in business on his own account as iron founder and engineer first at Grove Street and then in Atlas Street, obtained the British rights for a semi – automatic bottle making machine. The bottle manufacturers, however, were very reluctant to use it, so Foster, rather than admit defeat, erected one in part of his works. The venture proved a great success, so much so, in fact, that he was later able to take over the vacant Union Plate glass works nearby for bottle making purposes.

 

[surfaceone]

Hello iahmichel,

Welcome to the A-BN, and thanks for bringing these lovelies to our attention. The British and Australians call them Whirly Salad Oils.

I'd like to see more photos, in natural light, of a good size, so we might celebrate with you. We don't see hardly any of those on this side of the Big Water.

"Whirly Salad Oil
Cobalt Blue glass Goldfields era
$1175" From.​

 

[myersdiggers1998]

nice find !

 

[iahmichel]

Thanks everyone for their feedback, very interesting stuff!!! so now i know that these aren't from the 50's but a lot older,I'm still researching on the net but cannot find anything similar the the taller bottle anywhere!!!?? I must admit i returned to the junk shop today and bought a case gin bottle? dark olive green, they have quite a selection of old bottles, but to be honest I'm new to this and dont really know what I'm looking for. Oh by-the-way I'm located in England so thats why these have probably turned up in a junk shop(being British made). I will attempt to load more photos that I've taken but I had trouble last time with the file size(maybe kindly Jim will help me out again!!) And again a huge thank you for your feedback and information. Iah

 

[iahmichel]

Sorry i had to do it this way as it wont allow me to post 2 photos in one message........bear with me!!!

 

[MiamiMaritime]

Cool looking bottles. I hope someone has more info. Do you have a pic of the bottom?

 

[TROG]

Hi,
These bottles were for food grade oils and have seen them with labels for Salad Oil, Coconut Oil and even Olive Oil but generally in Australia we call them a salad oil bottle. Your 2 date around 1890 -1900 with the right hand side 1 being very common and the one on the left is seen infrequently.
When you get to the large 26 oz size I have also seen these with Vinegar labels but they are very rare in this size