Local "applied crown" beer

[AlleganyDigger]

I dug this Sunday under 3 inches of top soil behind a rock foundation in the back 40: "Trade Mark""Dotterweich Brew Co.""Olean NY""13 OZ" [attachment=cgsdg.JPG] It's my second variation of the Trade Name Dotterweich Brew Co. (1891-1920) I'm stoked! My two Dotterweich Brew Co. beers:[attachment=2 35rfc.JPG]

 

[Bass Assassin]

Nice beer

 

[botlguy]

Please look carefully, is that top actually applied in a separate operation or simply tooled? I believe we need to be accurate in our terms.

 

[AlleganyDigger]

I believe it to be tooled by looking at it. Not sure. How to tell?If so, would I call it a "tooled crown"?I'll take a close-up and post tomorrow.Thanks.

 

[botlguy]

An "Applied Top" would have the definite, apparent appearance of a separate piece of glass being used to form the collar or mouth or lip. It would have been added after the blow pipe was snapped off the neck of the bottle. A "Tooled Top" would appear as one piece where the glass was manually manipulated while in a semi molten state to form the "Finish" or top. The proper terms, in my vocabulary, are "Tooled Top" or Tooled Crown Top" or "Hand Finished". I know this all sounds like nit picking but incorrect terms lead to misunderstandings. Lots of collectors don't care, I do. THANK YOU for asking.

 

[AlleganyDigger]

THANK YOU for the explanation.I also want to get the terms correct.

 

[RED Matthews]

Well I have at least four tooled crown finish beers in FL. I son' think it was done for a long time period and haven't seen much written about them. RED Matthews

 

[RED Matthews]

From my studies of hand blown bottles with a tooled finish, the glass had to be added on the neck, after it was cut from the blowpipe. The flared flange finishes did not need added glass to be formed. I think some small finishes were made from the bottle neck glass. Each bottle is it's own story to tell us. RED M.

 

[CanadianBottles]

Kinda looks like an applied crown to me. Not something that was done too often in the US but could have maybe been made out of the country.

 

[2find4me]

Assuming This One is the same as the one pictured, it would have to be tooled because of the twist marks around the neck. Applied crowns usually would date from pre-1900, so it could easily be applied as much as tooled, just need a close up of the neck. Applied crowns are harder to find then tooled ones.