Monroe La. Straight side coke !

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's the aqua bottle again to confirm the embossed 'Trademark Registered'

 

[Bass Assassin]

i told you earlier that i felt the amber bottles were older and i finally let you convince me that the aqua pre-dated the ambers. I don't have any proof or evidence to back up my opinion. I know when i pick up the amber bottle and hold it i just get a feeling in my gut that its a very early bottle. These bottles raise more questions than they answer. The research you have provided answers a lot of questions that have plagued me for the past couple of years. I am definitely going to hace to go into the library and look for old phone listings, maps and newspapers.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Bob, I have been curious about that 75th ann bottle, seeing as you did not get your commemorative book yet, I went to my girlfriends house and looked it up in the book I got her. On page 233 it has one pic only of the bottle and not much other info. Nothing specific. Maybe you can come up with more.(her book is the 2nd edition)This has become a monster thread with lots of interesting stuff. Thanx to all who provided input, especially SodapopBob, Bass Assasin and of course goodman1966 and his bottle!

Mark I agree - mucho questions - paquito answers! I'm thinking libraries might be our best resource. The script location isn't much help either. According to charts like this one, both bottles could have been made anytime between about 1900 and 1910. center slug plate script - about 1900-1905.[ul][*] base rectangular slug plate script - about 1900-1905.[*] mid body script - about 1900-1910.[*] base script - about 1902-1915.[*] center diamond script - about 1907-1912. Only from Cumberland MD (amber and clear) and Toledo OH (amber). Photo courtesy of Tim McGuire.[*] vertical script - about 1905-1910. Only from Milwaukee WI.[*] vertical arrow script - about 1912-1916. All amber, primarily TN and KY.[*] circular arrow script - about 1912-1914. All from Jackson TN (amber and aqua).[*] shoulder script - about 1910-1919.[/ul] iggy Could you please check your girlfriend's commemorative book again and tell us if the Monroe 75th anniversary bottle that's pictured in it is aqua, clear, or amber? Thanks

 

[Bass Assassin]

Iggy, if possible try to take a photo of the bottle

 

[iggyworf]

I will get that info soon and a picture as well and post it.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

iggy

Thanks a lot - we will be looking forward to it.

In the meantime, here's a brief biography about Wiley P. Polk for future reference and historical interest. It was published in 1914 and mentions Joseph Renwick as being in the real estate and dairy business. All it needs now is a footnote indicating that Joseph was the first bottler of Coca Cola in Monroe, Louisiana.


http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/ouachita/bios/renwick.txt

Biography of (Capt.) Wiley P. Renwick, Troup County, Ga., then Ouachita Parish, Louisiana
Submitted by Mike Miller Source: Source: Louisiana: Comprising Sketches of Parishes, Towns, Events, Institutions, and Persons, Arranged in Cyclopedic Form, volume 3, p. 735. Edited by Alc e Fortier, Lit. D. Published in 1914, by Century Historical Association.<BR>

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Renwick, Capt. Wiley Polk, prominent in the commercial life of Monroe, was born Aug. 16, 1840, In Troup county, Ga. His parents were Dr. Nathan R. And Maria (McCriller) Renwick, the former of whom was a native of South Carolina, who settled in Georgia when a young man and practiced Medicine in Troup county. He remained there until toward the close of his life, then settling In Bastrop, La., a few years prior to his death, where he had continued his professional labor. W. P. Renwick spent his youth in Georgia till 1861, when he came to Louisiana and joined Co. B, 3d Louisiana regiment infantry, in order to be with his brother. He was first under Gen. McCullouchAnd later under Gen. Price. The first year of the war he was in southwest Missouri and northwest Arkansas, but in 1862 was transferred to Corinth,Miss., under Beauregard and Bragg. He was in a number of battles, having been wounded 3 times, twice in 1 battle, and in hospital on both occasions. He was taken prisoner twice by Grant's army, the first time being left behind on account of a wound; The second time he was surrendered at Vicksburg in 1863. On the latter occasion, after being paroled, he came home and remained until exchanged. After that he saw no active service and was not well from his wounds for 7 years. In 1865 he was paroled and came to Bastrop, where he engaged in general merchandising for about 7 years. In 1871 he moved to Monroe and engaged in handling cotton and freight on steamboats and cars, having remained in the shipping business to this time. He devotes all his time to the People's Warehouse & Compress Co. and the Standard Warehouse & Compress Co., both in Monroe, La.
In the Confederate army Mr. Renwick was a lieutenant and in reconstruction days he was elected captain of a company, since which time has been called captain. Capt. Renwick is a member of the Masonic order, a member and elder in the Presbyterian church and commander of the local camp, No. 182, of the United Confederate Veterans. In Dec., 1862, Mr. Renwick was married to Margaret, daughter of N. P. Cook of Yazoo county, Miss., and they have the following children: Joseph, in real estate and in the dairy business with his father; Willie Fay, now Mrs. F. B. Seiguine of Monroe; cook, in the dairy business; Leonora, now Mrs. H. G. Prophitt of Monroe, La.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Hey, Mark

Remember the brief discussion we had about whether there was ever a W-a-s-h-i-t-a Bottling Works and if the 1908 American Bottler reference was a typo? Because I still can't find another reference for W.B.W., I'm still of the opinion they never existed. As it turns out, it appears the American Bottler wasn't the only source who was confused about the name. But whether this was because of the pronunciation or some other reason, we may never know. Notice in this 1912 publication where they got the parish correct but then said Monroe was on the W-a-s-h-i-t-a River.

http://books.google.com/books?id=6ptPAAAAMAAJ&pg=PT384&lpg=PT384&dq=washita+river+monroe+louisiana&source=bl&ots=XYgSpvgRnG&sig=p9ckjvcsR3PhcJJh9QWh_O8DRhc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MF4nVNeBOZfQoAT_nIGwDg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=washita%20river%20monroe%20louisiana&f=false

Apparently even early map makers were confused ...

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1. 1860 Map Shows W-a-s-h-i-t-a Parish
2. But on the same 1860 map it shows the Ouachita River
3. And then on this 1864 map it shows it as the W-a-s-h-i-t-a River

You gotta wonder why it was so confusing. I can only assume it was probably because of the pronunciation.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

This link contains a ton of information and is for anyone interested in doing some advanced research on the genealogy of Ouachita Parish, Louisiana ... http://www.genealogyinc.com/louisiana/ouachita-parish/

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

To the rectangular slugplates, add Hawkinsville, Waycross, Augusta, Albany, and Americus. That's just what I have

Jimbo Do any of your slug plate bottles have makers marks, date codes, or anything else that might help to date them? According to Cecil Munsey's book, the start dates for the bottlers you listed are ... Hawkinsville = 1903Waycross = 1905Augusta = 1902Albany = 1903Americus = 1905

 

[iggyworf]

Here are the pics of the 75th anniversary Monroe bottle. The book has only one image. It is clear glass.[attachment=coke monroe 75th annv 1.jpg] [attachment=coke monroe 75th info.jpg]