Monroe La. Straight side coke !

[SODAPOPBOB]

Just for the record ... As of this posting, this thread has received 18,740 views ( Congratulations, Mitch )

 

[goodman1966]

I never dreamed this bottle would create this much info ! I want to thank everybody who contributed ! Your welcome Mark, that bottle has surpassed the Two word game. Bob, I give you my word, if I ever find another similar bottle, It will defiantly be yours. You have earned it !
Mark you asked for it ; Hey Bob I was driving down the road today thinking about that "flat based crown". Let me ask you this. Was it made that way for the early capping tools or machine to hold the bottle in place during capping ? Mitch

 

[goodman1966]

Look and ye shall find ! Got this off goggle images. It was patented in 1920, but something similar could have been in use for much longer. [attachment=image.jpg]

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Mitch Thanks for the kudos - but had you not started this thread the OVBW history might still be a mystery. I searched for various capping devices but never found one that mentioned anything about a flat-base Crown closure. I found the patent for the capper you posted a picture of, and even though it does not mention any specifics about the bottle type, it does say ... "The invention is particularly designed to automatically grasp the neck of the bottle while the cap is being applied, thereby facilitating the bottle capping operation, and at the same time enabling the application of the cap and the sealing of the neck of the bottle, and the securing of the cap to the neck of the bottle, to be made with uniform efficiency."

Bottle Capping Implement
C.A. Bunker
1,362,776
December 21, 1920

I searched but could not find an earlier example of this particular type of capper, although there might have been. Most inventors get their ideas from other inventors/patents, and then either alter or improve on them. But I will say this much, in the illustrations below the bottle appears to have a flat-base Crown and is the closest thing we've seen thus far. Parts 18/19 are described as "Bottle Grasping Jaws."

Here's the link to the original patent ...

https://www.google.com/patents/US1362776?dq=bottle+capper+december+1920&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gz_OVOjTHsLfoATRpIDQAQ&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

For future reference ... This is to confirm Schlitz beer offered both Cork as well as Crown closures at the same time at least as early as 1909 https://books.google.com/books?id=05YwAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PR11&lpg=RA2-PR11&dq=schlitz+bottle+crown+or+cork&source=bl&ots=PY5DjAPbV6&sig=EorzBwhddYZl5ulGjKDbA9HtHpc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=O6fOVOq2KIbqoASSooCYCQ&ved=0CE8Q6AEwDTgK#v=onepage&q=schlitz%20bottle%20crown%20or%20cork&f=false

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Typo/Correction ... I meant to say "as late as 1909 and no doubt earlier"

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. It goes without saying because beer is carbonated and under pressure that a beer bottle sealed with a cork would have needed some type of wire fastener to hold the cork in place. But whether Schlitz offered more than one type of bottle, I do not know. I only know I have seen early Schlitz bottles that appear identical except that some have a flat-base Crown and some have a typical Crown.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Three quick notes ... 1. I have not heard back from Bill Lockhart and will wait another week before doing a follow-up 2. I received my 75th anniversary Monroe bottle and it is in pristine mint condition. The only other information I can tell you is that it's embossed on the base in Coca Cola script along with 3,B : 7 22 1345 3. I offered the eBay seller $100 for his block-letter, amber, Coca Cola bottle but he replied back saying he paid more than that for it and will keep it if it doesn't sell for his Buy It Now price of $225

 

[mcdonaat]

Alright guys, I know this thread has somewhat died off, but I came across a straight-sided Coke bottle from Monroe, LA at an antique shop in Vicksburg, MS. It's the same exact style as the one posted on the first page, with Property of Ouachita Coca-Cola Bottling Co., Monroe LA, but where is the date? The only number I see is on the heel of the bottle, where a 1 exists, followed by some digit that's pretty much destroyed. I see a "1462A ROOT", with MAYBE a "14" following it. Curious as to what the rarity of a 1914 Ouachita CC Straight-Sided Coke would be! I also found a Biedenharn bottle, in the same design as the Coke, except it says "Registered Property of Biedenharn, Vicksburg, Miss" that holds 7 ounces, ROOT at bottom, 1915 date. It's been repaired slightly (bottom has been filled in on one corner of bottle) with a B on the bottom. Also came across a 1915 Patent Coke from Vicksburg (bottom says "Vicksburg, MISS 1" with a 1927 date on the bottle itself. Any info on what I might have found?

 

[goodman1966]

Hi Andrew, you have found a nice bottle if it's in good shape. Hopefully sodapopbob will chime in for you. If he doesn't send him a pm. If you decide you don't want it, I would like to have it. Of course I'd like to see some pics, does it have any condition issues ? That Monroe bottle would most likely be the second year of issue for Biedenharn after his move to Monroe. Value depends on a lot of things. Demand, condition, rarity......etc.
The other two I can't help with, sorry. You didn't mention what they wanted for those. And that's ok. But it would help to determine if they are worth it. I have been to some of the Vicksburg shops and find them to be overpriced in most instances. Funny thing is during this whole thread the value of the bottle I found was never discussed that I remember......... Mitch