Monroe La. Straight side coke !

[Bass Assassin]

Never mind, I was thinking something totally different when I read this. I think the crown caps simply had a cork lining inside them. For a minute I had a picture in my mind of a crown made of cork.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's a finishing tool called a ... Glass Blower's Implement ~ Patented in 1905 I acknowledge it does not have a flange for forming a flat underside on the reinforcing ring, but posting it to give us a general idea of one example being used in 1905. I still believe there is a tool showing the flat flange and will continue searching for one. If it was just one glass maker that produced the flat Crown, that might lend credence to some type of prototype experiment. But because there were at least three glass makers doing the same thing at the same time, it seems to suggest more than just an experiment, although it might have been. I hope Bill Lockhart comes up with an explanation because I'm about a stone's throw away from being totally stumped.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

William Painter Because it was William Painter who invented and patented the Crown finish/closure in 1892, its possible that any alterations/changes made to the finish in the following years, no matter how subtle those alterations might have been, could possibly have his name associated with it, even if those alterations involved a mold or finishing tool.

 

[Bass Assassin]

Yep I stumbled across a website last night that referenced Painter Cork Crown and Seal. I feel like our answer could be there somewhere

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Process of elimination ...

No Connection with Capping Apparatus

(That I can find)


Because of earlier references that said machinery at Ouachita Valley Bottling Works was
"antiquated / primitive," I spent several hours searching early bottle capping apparatus,
devices, machines, to see if any of them were designed that might explain the flat underside.
Because there were hundreds of apparatus listed, I only focused on those patented in 1910
or earlier. The long-story-short of it is, I did not find a single bottle capping apparatus that incorporated the use of a reinforcing ring with a flat underside. Those that had attachments for holding a bottle securely in place during the capping process were usually in the form of a half-circle metal ring in which the mid section of the bottle was placed against. Most if not all of the capping apparatus I looked at were either hand or foot operated.

Here are the links to just a few of the apparatus I'm referring to - all of which were for Crown finish bottles. The dates are for when they were patented.

By the way, I also did a brief search for bottle filling apparatus, but couldn't find any connection.

1900
https://www.google.com/patents/US660322?dq=bottle+capping+device&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dqzLVKGZMoa2ogT35oDoCw&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBjigAQ

1904
https://www.google.com/patents/US777784?dq=bottle+capping&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2vrLVKb8D9LZoASCv4D4Dg&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAj1905

1905
https://www.google.com/patents/US798579?dq=Bottle+Capping&hl=en&sa=X&ei=07DLVNbjA9PVoASa44Io&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCDhk

1910
https://www.google.com/patents/US946138?dq=Bottle+Capping&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Qq_LVP3BOcysogS35oLYBw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBA

1909
https://www.google.com/patents/US939141?dq=Bottle+Capping&hl=en&sa=X&ei=56_LVJCbBpSLoQSB5IHACw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAjg8

1910
https://www.google.com/patents/US962030?dq=bottle+capping&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sfzLVN3JNNDhoAS4rYDwCw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAjiWAQ

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

The basic definition of "Occam's Razor" is ... "The simplest answer is usually the correct answer" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor With Occam's Razor in mind, I am back-to-basics (which Mark has been a supporter of all along) in that the flat-base reinforcing ring was intended to anchor some type of closure. However, this doesn't necessarily mean the closure had a wire bale, nor that it was a Lightning-type. The closure used with the flat-base reinforcing ring might have been a Non-typical Crown similar to this example patented in 1912. (And still searching for something earlier than 1912).

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. Where there is one weird Crown finish/closure, there are bound to be more ???

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Like I said earlier, I'm pretty much stumped. But before I call it quits altogether, I'll go out on a limb with this guess and say ... I believe the flat-base reinforcing ring was intended to anchor some type of closure. But whether that closure had a wire bale or some other type of securing device, I do not know. In my opinion the flat-base attribute is too distinct and too deliberate not to have been designed and produced to serve a specific purpose. I can't say what the flat underside looks like on other bottles, but this is what it looks like on my bottle ...

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I rest my case! []

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

For future reference and possible research ...



The Bernardin Bottle Cap Company ~ Evansville, Indiana


History
http://robbernardin.com/Custom.aspx?apId=66979


History
https://www.facebook.com/notes/will-smith/in-the-history-of-evansville-indiana-bernardin-bottle-cap-company/10152070784188309


History
http://www.hutchbook.com/Industry%20History%20Lawsuits%20Imitations/Default.htm


The Competition
Http://www.bullworks.net/virtual/infopages/crowncork.htm