Moxie Cup

[februarystarskc]

Hello Everyone,

I picked up this Moxie glass today for $20. It doesn't look like it was used much. Anyway to date these glasses? Thank you

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[SODAPOPBOB]

feb ~

My guess is that your "embossed" Moxie glass is from the 1920s and/or 30s. The super-early Moxie glasses were "etched." A price guide I have list several like yours (no dates) from $35.00 to $75.00

Check out this cool Moxie site. Nothing specific about glasses but it does have some interesting stuff. Be sure to click on "History" from the task bar and then click on the various years for more ...

http://drinkmoxie.com/index.php

As for Moxie bottles, here's a good sampling of their timeline from hutch to acl ...

SPB

 

[februarystarskc]

thanks soda,

You have a very impressive collection! I didn't know Moxie had been around that long. Seems like the Japanese now own it.

Thank you for the info

 

[februarystarskc]

Is that a cork/bottle opener on a few of those bottles? Very interesting

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

1. The collection of Moxie bottles is not mine. I had the pic in my files which I got off the web a couple of years ago. I forget who's collection it is.

2. I believe the cork seals/openers in the Moxie bottles are similar to the one shown below.

This particular opener is mine and is a William Painter patent from the late 1890s. William Painter is the person who invented/patented the first crown closure in 1892. My opener does not have cork and never did, but it does fit snugly into a bottle opening although I doubt it would be snug enough to seal in the carbination.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

William Painter patent ... 1894

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~

If you look closely at the opener/seals in the bottle collection you'll notice they have "Moxie" embossed on them. Probably a promotional item from the early days.

 

[celerycola]

This did have a rubber seal on the conical part. The narrow tip on the right is for opening Painter's Baltimore Loop Seal used on a lot of beer and a few soda bottles.

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB



1. The collection of Moxie bottles is not mine. I had the pic in my files which I got off the web a couple of years ago. I forget who's collection it is.

2. I believe the cork seals/openers in the Moxie bottles are similar to the one shown below.

This particular opener is mine and is a William Painter patent from the late 1890s. William Painter is the person who invented/patented the first crown closure in 1892. My opener does not have cork and never did, but it does fit snugly into a bottle opening although I doubt it would be snug enough to seal in the carbination.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

celery ~

I was aware the tip was used for Baltimore Loop Seals but did not know they had a rubber seal. The patent text does not mention rubber that I am aware of but realize it could have been a later addition. The opener I have is so snug that even the thinnest rubber would make it almost impossible to insert into the bottle opening.

Patent link with text ...

http://www.google.com/patents/US514200?pg=PA2&dq=william+painter+capped+bottle+opener&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ohJiUfTZAuSy2gXfy4DgDw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=william%20painter%20capped%20bottle%20opener&f=false

[ Baltimore Loop Seal ]

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's a picture of my bottle opener inserted into a 1895 Murdock & Freeman crown closure bottle. This particular bottle is the earliest crown currently known and confirmed by the B.R.G. (Bottle Research Group / Bill Lockhart and numerous other researchers).